Question on Blops2 'Pick 10' system

[asasa]

The alerts are still there, heard it in the livestream.

[aidsaidsaids]

Fuck Overkill, why would anyone use a secondary when they can take those two points (gun+attachment) and get a perk (greed+perk)? Unless 3arch reforms themselves and makes secondaries/shotguns worth using, I would much rather have Dead Silence/Awareness (whichever wasn't already on the class to begin with).

[aidsaidsaids]

How are the perks weaker? Even with no pro effect, Dead Silence > every 3arch secondary ever.

[aidsaidsaids]

Aug 19, 2012 23:12:57 GMT -5 Mousey said:

I said they're weaker than in previous cod's, buddy. Most are just old perks split up into multiple ones.

CoD 4...

[cmck]

You have to go back to cod4 and WaW to get an exception? Kind of proves his point.

But here are the perks that look like they're at their all time weakest. Ghost, Blind eye, Toughness, Extreme conditioning, maybe hardwired. All the rest look like they are about the same in terms of usefulness. I'd like for them to change Extreme conditioning due to the whole rest of T3 is pretty amazing. Toughness also kind of needs a bit extra if its a 50% decrease like MW3 (I think BO was 50 too, but I'm not sure).

[Megaqwerty]

Aug 21, 2012 2:28:47 GMT -5 cmck said:

Toughness also kind of needs a bit extra if its a 50% decrease like MW3 (I think BO was 50 too, but I'm not sure).

Hardened was an 80% reduction, which in practice was effectively no flinch.

[Lexapro]

And it was glorious. Hardened was definitely one of the most underrated perks in BO1.

[cashmoves]

hardened with m16 + acog was pure destruction.

[UrbaneVirtuoso]

I was more of a Hardened M14 + M203 bra. Never had to worry about flinch fucking up my pro pipe over long distance. CQC improved a good deal for me, too. :3

[aidsaidsaids]

Aug 21, 2012 6:52:58 GMT -5 Mousey said:

I will give you one thing, though, this game will have way better perks than CoD2.

That's where you're wrong, rodent. Glorious Mosin Nagant > MW3 specialist bonus. And the MP44 kills in one headshot up to roughly 25432655462 meters. It's got stopping power built in and then some, for sure.

Also, playing Black Ops without a SPAS-12 silenced? wtf r u doin

[aidsaidsaids]

Some have Ninja, others have Marathon, some have Motion Sensors, etc.

What they all have in common is the SPAS-12.

[tooros]

Hardened and the G11 was the greatest thing I've ever used in COD.

[kittymulcher]

Tac mask pro, flack jacket pro and hardened pro in the bird's nest on firing range was the funniest shit I've ever pulled in a COD game.