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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 16, 2012 16:37:42 GMT -5
Aww man gonna miss the LMGS with 30-80 mag size ammo from WaW and BO. /=
Hopefully some have er.. hybrid characteristics and don't look, behave, and sound generic like their IW counterparts..
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 16, 2012 16:42:05 GMT -5
15 points per player killed Mao-C.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 16, 2012 18:00:05 GMT -5
I would say you could expect the assist scores from the UAV to get you to Counter UAV reasonably often (7 assists). Hellstorm Missile or Lightning Strike are at the upper limits of what a UAV can score on its own.
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Post by 8bitasplode on Aug 16, 2012 18:12:31 GMT -5
They better have. I assume they will have these be their options: - Low Recoil, Low RoF, 3HK - High Recoil, HIgh RoF, 3HK - High Recoil, Low RoF, 2-3HK |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 17, 2012 0:16:41 GMT -5
I think I can come into terms that that the SVU-AS won't OSOK to the chest.... Just hoping it OSOKs to the head at least with the silencer though. /=
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Post by [N7] SakuyaFM on Aug 17, 2012 0:46:16 GMT -5
Who's saying that the ballista is a semi-auto? That's the ironsight boltie featured in the MP trailer.
Definitely excited for the AN-94, assuming it does fire that first two shots at higher RPMs. That's the biggest reason I used the crap out of that gun in SOCOM 3.
Also, I would be very angry if they didn't nerf the flash and stun. For one, JUST GIVE ONE PER SPAWN, and reduce the effective radius.
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Post by asasa on Aug 17, 2012 0:56:25 GMT -5
Its fire mode is semi auto on the HUD.. but yeah, its bolt action. I assume that technically a semi auto can be bolt action?
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Post by Megaqwerty on Aug 17, 2012 1:20:16 GMT -5
I think I can come into terms that that the SVU-AS won't OSOK to the chest.... Just hoping it OSOKs to the head at least with the silencer though. /= It probably doesn't: the Ballista is definitely a OSK to the chest up...so it'll be a OSK only to the head when silenced. That'd make it a tough sell against a semi auto that can do the same thing. Its fire mode is semi auto on the HUD.. but yeah, its bolt action. I assume that technically a semi auto can be bolt action? Semi auto and bolt action is distinct, even in CoD. Manual actions have a rechamber step to prevent (or rather inhibit) players from canceling the rechamber animation. Even the single shot weapons (launchers) say semi auto, I believe, despite that nonsense. Since no said anything: WHERE THE HELL ARE THE CROSSBOW AND BALLISTIC KNIFE. |
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Aug 17, 2012 1:39:52 GMT -5
Removed because people complained these killed them too much despite their MMS Suppressed M8A1s. :L
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 17, 2012 2:03:35 GMT -5
I think I can come into terms that that the SVU-AS won't OSOK to the chest.... Just hoping it OSOKs to the head at least with the silencer though. /= It probably doesn't: the Ballista is definitely a OSK to the chest up...so it'll be a OSK only to the head when silenced. That'd make it a tough sell against a semi auto that can do the same thing. Its fire mode is semi auto on the HUD.. but yeah, its bolt action. I assume that technically a semi auto can be bolt action? Semi auto and bolt action is distinct, even in CoD. Manual actions have a rechamber step to prevent (or rather inhibit) players from canceling the rechamber animation. Even the single shot weapons (launchers) say semi auto, I believe, despite that nonsense. Since no said anything: WHERE THE HELL ARE THE CROSSBOW AND BALLISTIC KNIFE. We don't know that for sure. |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 18, 2012 19:22:27 GMT -5
Anyone know if recoil reduction for lmgs and snipers via stance modifiers (crouching and prone) are in Bo2?
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Post by asasa on Aug 18, 2012 19:36:30 GMT -5
I sure as hell hope not. That was one of the worst ideas I've seen put into CoD. Its like, "PLEASE CAMP HARDER WITH THESE ALREADY CAMPER FRIENDLY WEAPONS!"
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Aug 18, 2012 19:52:52 GMT -5
They need everything they can get, really. Stance multipliers all day plz.
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Post by asasa on Aug 18, 2012 20:21:20 GMT -5
Ah yes, the LMGs and Snipers are incredibly OP in MW3  When prone? Yes. Theyre ridiculously OP. And did I even use the acronym OP? No? Oh, cool. No wonder I cant stand you. |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 18, 2012 20:28:16 GMT -5
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 19, 2012 16:47:51 GMT -5
It was only OP on the barret 50 cal..
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 19, 2012 16:50:01 GMT -5
Also, are there still any weapons that need to be confirmed?
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 19, 2012 16:52:22 GMT -5
The MSMC isn't a variant of the Uzi, it just looks similar.  |
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Post by danoski666 on Aug 19, 2012 17:10:19 GMT -5
The MSMC isn't a variant of the Uzi, it just looks similar. So... like PM-9? |
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 19, 2012 17:19:28 GMT -5
The MSMC isn't a variant of the Uzi, it just looks similar. I use it as an umbrella term. I'm predicting more on the game mechanics of a gun, like uzi variants and pm9. How much recoil does the MSMC have anyway? Heard a lot of pros were using it. Didn't seem to have much recoil in BO2. |
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 19, 2012 19:55:13 GMT -5
Looks to be the 3HK one as it doesn't have built in big ammo
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Post by arcanine2009 on Aug 19, 2012 20:58:40 GMT -5
Looks to be the 3HK one as it doesn't have built in big ammo Does it have 937 RPM RoF? Gun doesn't seem to have a lot of recoil either. I'm a little worried. Anyway, any more guns confirmed, that I might have missed on the first page? There has to be more lmgs, shotguns, and sniper rifles.. |
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Post by bmac39 on Aug 19, 2012 22:57:50 GMT -5
Looks to be the 3HK one as it doesn't have built in big ammo Does it have 937 RPM RoF? Gun doesn't seem to have a lot of recoil either. I'm a little worried. Anyway, any more guns confirmed, that I might have missed on the first page? There has to be more lmgs, shotguns, and sniper rifles.. It's in alpha. It's bound to have more by release. |
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Post by 8bitasplode on Aug 20, 2012 0:46:04 GMT -5
I sure as hell hope not. That was one of the worst ideas I've seen put into CoD. Its like, "PLEASE CAMP HARDER WITH THESE ALREADY CAMPER FRIENDLY WEAPONS!" The whole point of using an LMG is that it is supposed to favor a more defensive strategy. |
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Post by mastermarth on Aug 20, 2012 6:39:55 GMT -5
bmac39: It may be alpha, but I thought they had said somewhere that what was shown at Gamescom was the full MP weapon list. Besides, BO only had 4 Snipers and LMGs, so this game only having 3 of each class wouldn't be a surprise. Really though, as long as all 3 are different, 3 should be fine. For LMGs, you have the M60-style (2HK-3HK, high recoil, low RoF), then low recoil low RoF 3HK, then high recoil high RoF 3HK. For snipers, you have the semi-auto with 1HK to head/neck, the bolt-action that 1HK to the waist up, then the bolt-action with 1HK to chest up with "faster handling speeds", which I'm still trying to guess what that means... For Shotguns, they could have 1 pump, 1 semi-auto and 1 auto. I can't really remember seeing any shotgun for too long besides the M1216 (BUFF IT! ), so I don't know what they actually are in BO2. Honestly though, I wish someone would have gone through every weapon in the Pick 10 system and at least shown all the attachments for each class. We know all the AR and Pistol attachments, and know that the Dual Band seems to be LMG/Sniper only, but are there any other LMG-exclusive, Sniper-exclusive or Shotgun-exclusive attachments we haven't seen?
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Post by volgon on Aug 20, 2012 7:12:34 GMT -5
I'd say it's pretty likely there's at least one more LMG and Shotgun. The weapon list is certainly not final since the TAR-21 was seen in a leaked video (from some sort of closed play session) but was not present in the Gamescom build.
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Post by Lexapro on Aug 20, 2012 7:43:09 GMT -5
We also did not see the Vector K10 even though there's screens of that floating around 2. Ultimately, I'd expect maybe a half dozen more weapons by the time the game is released.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Aug 20, 2012 9:09:55 GMT -5
So? The Steam page on MW3 still shows a guy holding an M240. The TAR-21 and Vector might just be place holders as the have the exact same models as they did in MW3.
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Post by mastermarth on Aug 20, 2012 12:15:25 GMT -5
Or maybe they are SP only weapons?
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Post by asasa on Aug 20, 2012 12:22:20 GMT -5
I sure as hell hope not. That was one of the worst ideas I've seen put into CoD. Its like, "PLEASE CAMP HARDER WITH THESE ALREADY CAMPER FRIENDLY WEAPONS!" The whole point of using an LMG is that it is supposed to favor a more defensive strategy. Yep. I think its fine for them to be used as locking-down support weapons... like the center building on Array. Prone bonus just makes people lay in one spot pre-aimed. |
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