Bungie's Destiny

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Sorry, should've specified. Destiny. Watching lots of Destiny Crucible footage. No one seems to really be focused on headshots.

[n1gh7]

Destiny doesn't seem to have shields where it makes it clear that you drop the shields with body shots then finish with a headshot so people aren't going for it like they would in halo. Most people playing are probably cod players that aren't used to going for headshots otherwise.

[-3055-]

Destiny has shields. The first two bars indicate shields while the last indicate health. And you can still get critical hits on an enemy even if their shields are up.

[wittyscorpion]

Jun 20, 2014 14:49:11 GMT -5 -3055- said:

Sorry, should've specified. Destiny. Watching lots of Destiny Crucible footage. No one seems to really be focused on headshots.

That's not what I observed. I watched some Twitch streaming as well as a handful of YouTube videos, and it seems to me that everybody thinks that head shots are important. One thing seems to be fairly certain: once the shield is depleted, head shots can significantly reduce the number of bullets to kill.

Given the wide range of opinions on this topic, it's either too early to tell, or head shots are important but not critical. We will see when more players get their hands on the game, especially when Halo players are playing against CoD players.

[GodMars]

Jun 20, 2014 14:49:11 GMT -5 -3055- said:

Sorry, should've specified. Destiny. Watching lots of Destiny Crucible footage. No one seems to really be focused on headshots.

I found it easier to focus the head in Destiny because of the longer TTK.

[LoE Impact]

Will there be stats dropped for Destiny like with CoD and Titanfall?

[-3055-]

Most of it is presented, like RoF, damage, etc. But then just like cod there are these arbitrary bars for range, stability, impact, etc.

[wittyscorpion]

Jun 20, 2014 20:11:45 GMT -5 LoE Impact said:

Will there be stats dropped for Destiny like with CoD and Titanfall?

Sadly Destiny is not available on PC, so it would be next to impossible to get accurate stats like what we have been spoiled with for CoD and Titanfall.

[wittyscorpion]

www.gameranx.com/updates/id/22701/article/destiny-dev-comments-on-xbox-one-vs-ps4-exlusive-content-more/

Assorted info from an interview with Bungie dev:

PS4 exclusives are indeed timed exclusive;

Vehicles only available in PvP, not PvE;

Public event player limit: currently set to 7, may increase;

Bungie is working on ways to support clans;

[LoE Impact]

Im not saying in the same fashion as CoD or TF. With the massive amount of variation with weapons and gear it would be incredibly hard to get solid stats. I guess i'd be looking more for the static numbers that dont change. The attack will vary as you upgrade you weapon as will your health as you level up and add better gear.

[TheHawkNY]

[wittyscorpion]

Interview with Bungie COO: www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-06-23-bungie-coo

A few notables:

1) Development cost is not anywhere near $500 million;

2) The IP belongs to Bungie, not ActiVision;

and most importantly (coming from COO):

Q: What safeguards are you putting in place to guarantee that service stays up day one and stays stable?

Pete Parsons: Part of it is we've had, for many months now, we've been actively had a build up, we pinged our data centre for the first time more than a year ago.

So we have been actively preparing. You made a great comment earlier, which is neither Bungie nor Activision do anything by halves. There's a reason why we've been doing, the reason why we have this Alpha today, the reason why these people are playing off the same data centre, if the internet goes down or a meteor hits our data centre, we're not playing on the floor today. There's no safeguards in place. We're playing on our thing and that's an active test for us. It's always scary and exciting and to put your work out in front of people who are judging it but it's also, it's scary to put it out there because you're testing whether it's going to work or not.

We take it super seriously and we've been planning for a long time, we've been investing into it to make sure that we have the best experience possible and I think we have to ultimately see what happens but we have every expectation of from moment one, having a great experience, and when things happen, whether it's with us or the internet, we have things in place. There's elegance in what we do so we have plenty of safeguards for this.

[mannon]

"There's a reason why we've been doing, the reason why we have this Alpha today, the reason why these people are playing off the same data centre, if the internet goes down or a meteor hits our data centre, we're not playing on the floor today. There's no safeguards in place. We're playing on our thing and that's an active test for us."

Wait, what? Is that English?

[GodMars]

Jun 24, 2014 16:24:21 GMT -5 mannon said:

"There's a reason why we've been doing, the reason why we have this Alpha today, the reason why these people are playing off the same data centre, if the internet goes down or a meteor hits our data centre, we're not playing on the floor today. There's no safeguards in place. We're playing on our thing and that's an active test for us."

Wait, what? Is that English?

They've been testing on the actual servers to be used during the game's lifespan, not internal ones generally used for QA and the like.

[mannon]

Thank you for the translation. ;p I was guessing that's what he was getting at but just... wow. I've rarely seen anything as poorly communicated. I mean really, "...we're not playing on the floor today." What the heck does that mean? heh

Anyway, yay they're testing it! I think I also understand that they're doing all the testing on one datacenter rather than spreading it out, presumably to test capacity better. I dunno. Hard to get many details out of that other than, "we're doing our thing, be happy!". But it does come off as candid and not PR speak which is meaningless.

I'll take unintelligible over meaningless. ;p

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IS JULY 17TH HERE YET.

[wittyscorpion]

Jun 25, 2014 11:32:46 GMT -5 -3055- said:

IS JULY 17TH HERE YET.

It will be here soon enough

Meanwhile I am playing Titanfall and watching World Cup to pass the time.

[-3055-]

Korea got facefucked by Algeria. And there's no way we're beating Belgium. So I'm just going to root for Germany.

[mannon]

Go sportsball team!

[wittyscorpion]

Best World Cup since 1986 (yes, I am that old)! I am enjoying it very much. Teams from Asia / Pacific are getting creamed though, played like noobs...

Go Netherlands!

[-3055-]

USA vs GER is going to be awesome. Or a travesty. Either way fun to watch.

[wittyscorpion]

XONE beta date still not announced, but should definitely be in July:

1) Destiny's beta site says "soon after" 07/17/2014 - www.destinythegame.com/beta?linkId=8635303

2) Beta trailer on XBox dashboard says "late July" - s.pro-gmedia.com/videogamer/media/images/pub/large/destiny_beta.jpg

I guess it is going to be around 07/24, one week after PSN.

Pre-order numbers by 06/21: www.vgchartz.com/preorders/41812/USA/

PS4: 380,904
XONE: 300,767
X360: 128,518
PS3: 63,612 (if this number holds it is not going to be much fun playing beta on PS3).

[wittyscorpion]

For bros who did not get to play Alpha, the following videos provide details of how "loadout" works in Destiny:

Warlock (Voidwalker subclass):



Hunter (Gunslinger subclass):



Titan (Striker subclass):



Comparison:

[wittyscorpion]

Quick notes regarding how Destiny class/subclass/loadout works:

1) 3 races - Human, Exo, Awoken: purely cosmetic

2) 3 classes - Warlock, Hunter, Titan. Each class has different "composite" of 3 traits: armor (Titan has the most), Recovery (Warlock has the most), and Agility (Hunter has the most). Each also their own unique vertical movements (Titan - jetpack, Warlock - glide, Hunter - double jump), melee, and grenade choices.

3) You create a character by choosing a race and a class. You can have create up to 3 characters.

4) Each class has several subclasses (2 revealed for each so far, not sure whether that's it or there are more), each subclass is defined by its "super" ability.

5) Loadout options for each subclass: grenade options, vertical movement options, melee options, and upgrades to grenades/movement/super/melee/traits. You can have multiple loadouts of each subclass, customized with different parameters.

6) Weapons & gears appear to be "orthogonal" to class/subclass/loadout setup mentioned above. They have their own sophisticated upgrade trees, and can be freely transferred among different characters you create.

7) Each character are equipped with 3 weapons at 3 slots, each with their own unique ammo;

Primary weapon slot (ammo availability: abundant): Auto Rifle, Pulse Rifle (burst fire), Scout Rifle (semi auto), Hand Cannon;
Special weapon slot (ammo availability: medium): Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, Fusion Rifle (railgun style);
Heavy weapon slot (ammo availability: rare): Heavy Machine Gun, Rocket Launcher;

[-3055-]

ammo availability is different from PvP to PvP:

PvE:
Primary: abundant. But if you're more of the "stay back and longshot" kind of person, you'll run out of ammo quickly.
Special: fair. You won't have issues finding green ammo, but don't rely on using just your special.
Heavy: very rare. Save up these ammos for bosses. Normal enemies can drop them but it's pretty damn rare.

PvP:
Primary: abundant.
Special: abundant. You'll find multiple green ammo boxes scattered across each map.
Heavy: rare, but time-slotted.

[LoE Impact]

According to Cyberland, A user at NEOGAF has posted pictures of the Destiny PC version on the Steam Database. According to the Destiny PC steam database entry, the Destiny PC release date is tentatively set on March 2015.

This revelation comes after the fact that Activision CEO Erik Hirshberg has admitted that the company is looking into Destiny for PC.

In an interview with Polygon, Activision CEO Erik Hirshberg admitted that Destiny PC is a good idea and is it something that he considered as a good fit:

"It is , and it's something we're talking about and looking at very carefully, and obviously it makes a lot of sense with the genre and the type of game it is. Again, no announcements, but it's something that's a heavy point of discussion. And you asked how are we dealing with the complexity of developing for so many platforms, how about one more on top of that?"

"You know, developing on PC is a different animal than developing for consoles and so we just want to make sure that we're putting one foot in front of the other and getting it right, and that it's of the highest possible quality. But obviously I see the same things about the natural fit."

The Destiny PC release date is tentatively set for March 2015 while Destiny would be released on consoles on September 9 on PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One

Source: www.kdramastars.com/articles/2651...e-date.htm

[wittyscorpion]

Jun 17, 2014 19:48:06 GMT -5 -3055- said:

Yeah. I mean I don't even care that much about dialogue or story or voice acting or whatever as long as the gameplay is good but it's just so bad it kinda... forces you to focus on it.

Pretty much my only complaint, though. And even if they don't re-record, eh. Whatever. Still a great game.

For people who hate the voice, you will be happy to know that they will be updated for Beta, and updated again for the final game, based on the info from Bungie's weekly update:

Q. Hey, the Ghost dialog in the Alpha was totally final, right?

Hey, we read the same forums, my fictional, question formulating friend! In fact, the Ghost dialog has already been updated for Beta. It will be updated again for launch on September 9th, as well.

Funny thing about Alpha builds…they’re not done. Please pardon our Moon dust!

[GodMars]

The dialog and voice were different in the trailers as well. Modulation and whatnot.

[-3055-]

The last skill column before the "Illumination" lock reminds me of the gamechangers in borderlands. I'm excited to see what they are for the Titan's Defender and the Warlock's Firesinger.

[wittyscorpion]

Destiny might have a "racing" mode: www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/29k78l/evidence_of_racing_in_destiny_e3_gameplay/