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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 5, 2015 21:51:32 GMT -5
Does anyone remember what the AMR9 RoF (in-burst) was before this patch?
I don't care about the damage buff, a 5-round burst SMG shooting at 720rpm is still pathetic.
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Post by Will on Mar 6, 2015 2:53:33 GMT -5
Does anyone remember what the AMR9 RoF (in-burst) was before this patch? I don't care about the damage buff, a 5-round burst SMG shooting at 720rpm is still pathetic. 923 (100 ms burst delay) |
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Mar 6, 2015 3:41:12 GMT -5
Do we have any good numbers on the average frame rates of different versions of consoles for this game? Map specific would be preferred. Also, are there any real-time console FPS monitors/gauges that you bros would recommend? (There might not be any without modding, I don't know. I'm a noob on these topics.)
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Post by sixone on Mar 6, 2015 7:23:42 GMT -5
but let's get one thing straight framerate isn't tied to firerate First Santa Claus now this... |
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Post by ultimate94ninja on Mar 6, 2015 15:44:02 GMT -5
Does the intro RoF remain 857 RPM for all variants of the ASM1? Is it also the case for the lockdown RoF (800 RPM) of the XMG variants?
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Post by Marvel4 on Mar 6, 2015 15:50:56 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by ultimate94ninja on Mar 6, 2015 15:57:07 GMT -5
Thanks (lol then the XMG Bread and Butter fires slower in lockdown). And regarding the recent patch, the changes for the weapons stats don't apply to exo survival, right? (asking this because exo survival usually has the same weapons stats as in multiplayer)
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Post by Marvel4 on Mar 6, 2015 16:43:02 GMT -5
Exo Survival has the same weapon stats.
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Post by ultimate94ninja on Mar 6, 2015 17:04:10 GMT -5
Ah... so the patch does affect ES. Was it also the case for the MW3 survival mode?
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Post by Marvel4 on Mar 6, 2015 17:27:12 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 7, 2015 13:18:04 GMT -5
I'll have to capture footage and measure later to confirm, but it sure seems like Rapid Fire on the ASM1 is now broken. Either that, or it has no effect on the first 8 shots, starting out at 720rpm and stepping up to 900rpm, accelerating over time like the BAL. That would actually make sense as pre-patch, I'm pretty sure RF only boosted rpm after the first 8 shots, having no affect on the intro RoF. Even so, the rapid fire RoF after the first 8 shots sure seems a lot slower than 900rpm, but we all know how this game likes to trick us with audio that doesn't match up with the actual gunfire.
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Post by banana on Mar 7, 2015 15:01:14 GMT -5
rapid fire never had an effect on the asm1's intro bullets
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 15, 2015 22:41:35 GMT -5
"lerps over first x rounds from..."
Can somebody explain what that means?
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Post by probaddie on Mar 15, 2015 23:09:17 GMT -5
"lerps over first x rounds from..." Can somebody explain what that means? "lerp" = linear interpolation. Basically, the graph of firerate as a function of time is this:  |
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Post by kylet357 on Mar 15, 2015 23:50:26 GMT -5
and here I was thinking it was just a funny sounding word
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Post by ultimate94ninja on Mar 16, 2015 7:33:47 GMT -5
Did the ASM1 and HBRa3 get RoFs that lerp due to the recent patch? Or was it always the case without toggling between the two rates like the Bal-27 and SN6 do?
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Post by I Am Hollywood5 on Mar 16, 2015 7:43:07 GMT -5
Thanks Probaddie.
That would explain why the HBR insanity seems to drop down to 720 rpm after just 2 shots instead of 4.
So now, if I put rapid fire on an ASM1, does it lerp from the 857 rpm down to 759 rpm (effectively 720 the whole time), and then jump to 900+ rpm? Or does it lerp from 857 straight to 900+ rpm?
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Post by probaddie on Mar 16, 2015 8:24:31 GMT -5
Thanks Probaddie. That would explain why the HBR insanity seems to drop down to 720 rpm after just 2 shots instead of 4. So now, if I put rapid fire on an ASM1, does it lerp from the 857 rpm down to 759 rpm (effectively 720 the whole time), and then jump to 900+ rpm? Or does it lerp from 857 straight to 900+ rpm? No, the ASM1 with rapid fire will increase in firerate from 857 RPM up to its final firerate. |
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Post by probaddie on Mar 16, 2015 8:25:43 GMT -5
Did the ASM1 and HBRa3 get RoFs that lerp due to the recent patch? Or was it always the case without toggling between the two rates like the Bal-27 and SN6 do? It was always this way. Marvel4 confirmed this when he found a boolean variable that was set to true only for the ASM1 and HBRa3. |
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Post by banana on Mar 16, 2015 11:30:58 GMT -5
Lerp?
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Post by probaddie on Mar 16, 2015 16:54:11 GMT -5
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Post by banana on Mar 16, 2015 21:02:27 GMT -5
Seems confusing. So at what point would a rapid fire asm1 reach 900? |
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Post by Will on Mar 16, 2015 21:57:18 GMT -5
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Post by cat on Mar 16, 2015 22:23:50 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Mar 16, 2015 22:36:50 GMT -5
Isn't intro ROF unaffected by rapid fire? Yes. Now I feel dumb.  Looks like 900 is achieved between shots 4 and 5 |
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Post by unix on Mar 16, 2015 22:54:28 GMT -5
From my understanding the Speakeasy was crippled by this past update due to the initial rof pre patch being around 1000 rpm then dropping to 800..
So now it initially fires slower 857 then increases to 1016 after first 8 shots correct?
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Post by banana on Mar 16, 2015 23:12:17 GMT -5
From my understanding the Speakeasy was crippled by this past update due to the initial rof pre patch being around 1000 rpm then dropping to 800.. So now it initially fires slower 857 then increases to 1016 after first 8 shots correct? The asm1 and hbr shoot faster linearly until it reaches the final rof. Just look at Will's graph |
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Post by ninopettis on Mar 17, 2015 1:25:47 GMT -5
I had no idea about this lerping thing. Have to find a way to put that in my spreadsheet.
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Post by kylet357 on Mar 17, 2015 3:00:31 GMT -5
From my understanding the Speakeasy was crippled by this past update due to the initial rof pre patch being around 1000 rpm then dropping to 800.. So now it initially fires slower 857 then increases to 1016 after first 8 shots correct? If I remember correctly, there was no initial fire rate on the Speakeasy. It fired at a straight 1016 RPM, and thus the the latest nerf for the ASM1 doesn't affect it at all. |
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Post by Will on Mar 17, 2015 3:48:51 GMT -5
From my understanding the Speakeasy was crippled by this past update due to the initial rof pre patch being around 1000 rpm then dropping to 800.. So now it initially fires slower 857 then increases to 1016 after first 8 shots correct? If I remember correctly, there was no initial fire rate on the Speakeasy. It fired at a straight 1016 RPM, and thus the the latest nerf for the ASM1 doesn't affect it at all. Speakeasy has always had an intro firetime, and still does. Check the last 3 columns in Marvel's source spreadsheet (GD, GE, GF) |
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