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Post by markopolo on Mar 30, 2015 6:37:26 GMT -5
That spot is insane. I bet it could be replicated with 2/3 voidwalkers or fist of havocers too
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Post by markopolo on Apr 7, 2015 13:00:42 GMT -5
Also, mannon, I know you don't get on as much as you'd like, so doing Patrol Venus may be a more effective use of your time. Public Events in Ishtar Cliffs are always defending the Conflux against Vex sacrifices, and events in the Citadel are almost always those as well (although they are kill target every once in a while). The timing frequently works out so that you can do an event in each area with little delay, and they're close to one another (go from Citadel -> Waking Ruins -> Ishtar Cliffs and vice versa). Pop a Blue Polyphage and you'll make a good amount of glimmer defending the conflux, and after the event ends you should pretty much always find another one on the ground. The events aren't as hard as everyone makes them out to be - at the beginning, just keep checking all directions and don't trust that a random has one side covered; by the time the more difficult enemies come they reduce down to a single spawn spot and you don't have to watch all directions. It's probably a more effective use of your time. You won't earn as high a rate of glimmer/minute, but you'll earn more XP, and you'll also get ascendant materials and vanguard marks from the public events; reputation from the patrol missions you pick up while doing it; and it's a better place to complete bounties as well. The daily reward packages are also nice because you can save them up and redeem them when you want them - for example, when you get a new weapon you want to level quickly, you can pop a telemetry and redeem a bunch of them for an enormous amount of XP. To add to this, and again, it might not be the most effecient, max way of doing things... while you are waiting for the event, do the venus Ishtar Cliffs loot cave, where the 3 shanks and the yellow shotgun dreg, and the 2 dreg and vandal spawn. Watch dis: Pro: You can do the fallen major bounties very quickly here. And if you use Bad Juju, you'll probably never have to reload ever. The video maker doesn't use Juju, but I always do and maybe I have to reload.... 4 times in 10 minutes? And some times, you get a yellow dreg and a yellow shank. Kill the yellow that comes off the ship and you can make more. As well, there is always the breaking down of bonbons too. No fancy helmets or class choices required... use Bad Juju so you don't drain your ammo, kill kill kill kill and kill Con: Like any patrol farming, if someone else is in the area, it can potentially mess with the spawns. As well, behind you where the ship drops off, it ususally drops off a sniper or two that can make things annoying. While I like the huge potential of the Exclusion zone, I just can't do it right, nor do I like the constant dying to reset it. I know, it's a personal thing, but I'm all about the synergy between farming and bounties and any farming that requires you to die, and possibly reseting any bounties, isn't worth it for me. I like to keep it simple... here on Venus, it's quite simple. And if you load up on Eris bounties, you can farm the 3 musketeers and get 75 (125 with a BWIdol) and have the opportunity to complete any number of bounties there too
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Post by wings on Apr 10, 2015 7:45:45 GMT -5
For those after the architects that the Cryptarch gives 200 Glimmer for, you could farm Riksis on the mission "Restoration" on the Heroic difficulty. You will need to leave his accompanying Fallen alive as killing all of them means your next play through means a full restart. Bosses, minus Omnigul, appear to guarantee Glimmer item drops and this will be handy for the bounty to kill 10 Fallen Majors too without people stealing kills in The Divide etc with a rocket launcher. Once you kill Riksis, just head to Orbit and you will respawn on the steps the next time you do that mission.
I sometimes do this when I'm waiting for a friend to come online and I have over 150k Glimmer stored in my vault now.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 10, 2015 13:01:04 GMT -5
For those after the architects that the Cryptarch gives 200 Glimmer for, you could farm Riksis on the mission "Restoration" on the Heroic difficulty. You will need to leave his accompanying Fallen alive as killing all of them means your next play through means a full restart. Bosses, minus Omnigul, appear to guarantee Glimmer item drops and this will be handy for the bounty to kill 10 Fallen Majors too without people stealing kills in The Divide etc with a rocket launcher. Once you kill Riksis, just head to Orbit and you will respawn on the steps the next time you do that mission. I sometimes do this when I'm waiting for a friend to come online and I have over 150k Glimmer stored in my vault now. So... to be clear, just to dumb this down for me: 1. load it up (it's the 2nd mission, correct) 2. Do the mission on heroic 3. Get to where the darkness zone starts (pop something for extra fallen glimmer, I assume?) 4. Kill Riksis and get his house banner 5. Leave the other baddies 6. Go to orbit 7. Go back in, it takes me to the darkness zone 8. repeat steps 4 to 7 Correct
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Post by TheHawkNY on Apr 10, 2015 13:10:39 GMT -5
That must be much slower than doing the Gatekeeper, correct?
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Post by markopolo on Apr 10, 2015 13:13:07 GMT -5
If memory serves me correct with that mission, there are 3 waves of vandals... can I just kill them all and leave one and get killed by it?
OR does the killing of the boss, kill the other mobs too when the 30 sec timer starts? And if the timer counts down, does it still pop me back in the darkness zone, or do I have to do it all over again.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 10, 2015 13:13:45 GMT -5
That must be much slower than doing the Gatekeeper, correct? But you need to have the gatekeeper checkpoint, no? Here, it's the 2nd mission of the game, and I think the heroic modifier makes it... level 4 or 6?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Apr 10, 2015 13:25:49 GMT -5
Well, yes. But if you get the Gorgon's chest every week, you can run through the maze and do the jumps solo, and then you're there. That checkpoint will be a lot more productive in terms of glimmer/engrams/consumables. wings What happens if you immediately suicide after picking up the consumable? You won't fight him again, even if you leave the adds?
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Post by wings on Apr 10, 2015 14:14:42 GMT -5
For those after the architects that the Cryptarch gives 200 Glimmer for, you could farm Riksis on the mission "Restoration" on the Heroic difficulty. You will need to leave his accompanying Fallen alive as killing all of them means your next play through means a full restart. Bosses, minus Omnigul, appear to guarantee Glimmer item drops and this will be handy for the bounty to kill 10 Fallen Majors too without people stealing kills in The Divide etc with a rocket launcher. Once you kill Riksis, just head to Orbit and you will respawn on the steps the next time you do that mission. I sometimes do this when I'm waiting for a friend to come online and I have over 150k Glimmer stored in my vault now. So... to be clear, just to dumb this down for me: 1. load it up (it's the 2nd mission, correct) 2. Do the mission on heroic 3. Get to where the darkness zone starts (pop something for extra fallen glimmer, I assume?) 4. Kill Riksis and get his house banner 5. Leave the other baddies 6. Go to orbit 7. Go back in, it takes me to the darkness zone 8. repeat steps 4 to 7 Correct Yep. wings What happens if you immediately suicide after picking up the consumable? You won't fight him again, even if you leave the adds? I never tried that. I assume you are just bypassing heading to Orbit. Will try this later.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 10, 2015 14:32:41 GMT -5
So... to be clear, just to dumb this down for me: 1. load it up (it's the 2nd mission, correct) 2. Do the mission on heroic 3. Get to where the darkness zone starts (pop something for extra fallen glimmer, I assume?) 4. Kill Riksis and get his house banner 5. Leave the other baddies 6. Go to orbit 7. Go back in, it takes me to the darkness zone 8. repeat steps 4 to 7 Correct Yep. wings What happens if you immediately suicide after picking up the consumable? You won't fight him again, even if you leave the adds? I never tried that. I assume you are just bypassing heading to Orbit. Will try this later. Again... just to be sure, I am only killing the boss, not the other fallen vandals, then going to orbit (not suiciding) right?
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Post by wings on Apr 10, 2015 15:32:01 GMT -5
If you kill all three of the Vandals that spawn with Riksis you will end up completing the mission and have to restart it. So just kill the Archon.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 11, 2015 15:52:16 GMT -5
Didn't test it toomuch, but I just killed the archon and didn't get a single house banner
What level does it have to be on? Any with the heroic or does it have to be on 30?
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Post by wings on Apr 11, 2015 16:41:10 GMT -5
Didn't test it toomuch, but I just killed the archon and didn't get a single house banner What level does it have to be on? Any with the heroic or does it have to be on 30? Just on heroic difficulty, level 3 will do. Sometimes the Glimmer item has dropped a little further away from the exact spot Riksis died.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 11, 2015 17:14:42 GMT -5
Didn't test it toomuch, but I just killed the archon and didn't get a single house banner What level does it have to be on? Any with the heroic or does it have to be on 30? Just on heroic difficulty, level 3 will do. Sometimes the Glimmer item has dropped a little further away from the exact spot Riksis died. I'll try it somemore and report back; i am hopeful it works
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Post by mannon on Apr 13, 2015 9:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 13, 2015 10:15:20 GMT -5
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What's wrong with the Exclusion zone? Why don't you just use this?
It's pretty simply and involves very little work or effort. You start right at the beginning (about a min to get going) and all you have to do is kill like seven yellow majors, while ignoring the rest. All of them majors spawn right in front of you. Drop them all, pick up stuff, die and repeat.
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Post by mannon on Apr 13, 2015 10:23:08 GMT -5
I usually don't bother picking up stuff every time. Faster to just leave it until you're ready to go then pick it all up at once unless there's a purple brick you want. I think Marko was playing a new character that didn't have the mission unlocked yet, though.
Then again with glimmer shared across characters why not just use one that does have it unlocked?
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 13, 2015 10:48:41 GMT -5
I usually don't bother picking up stuff every time. Faster to just leave it until you're ready to go then pick it all up at once unless there's a purple brick you want. I think Marko was playing a new character that didn't have the mission unlocked yet, though. Then again with glimmer shared across characters why not just use one that does have it unlocked? I did the above for a while...until I got signed out once by accident. Left about 10 things on the ground. Not happy. Not going to make that mistake again. If I glimmer farm now, I just use my Hunter class. Use the Gunslinger, exotic with four bullets. You do this, by the time you have cleaned out a level, your super is recharged for the next attempt. Endless supers, makes each cycle go faster.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Apr 13, 2015 10:50:13 GMT -5
That's crazy talk when you can use Nova Bomb and take out most of the majors and have your next super.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 13, 2015 10:52:24 GMT -5
That's crazy talk when you can use Nova Bomb and take out most of the majors and have your next super. I get my next Gunslinger Hunter super every time too. Four shots, four majors. The other three are easy enough to kill. Like five to ten seconds? Either way, close enough. Super recharged. What difference does it make, in a game where time spent is measured in days. Plus, I am ALWAYS in need of materials/engrams for my Hunter. I don't need a single thing for my Warlock.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 12:23:47 GMT -5
Didn't test it toomuch, but I just killed the archon and didn't get a single house banner What level does it have to be on? Any with the heroic or does it have to be on 30? Just on heroic difficulty, level 3 will do. Sometimes the Glimmer item has dropped a little further away from the exact spot Riksis died. Alright... did it 10 times this weekend. Got 5 banners and 5 ether seeds Pros: - guaranteed drop each time - you know what you're getting - short, sweet, to the point - get it done quick - get to save $$$ in the bank, rather than having drops which you can max out Cons: - lots of idle time; I feel like I'n not doing much - only 25 glimmer at a time; other places give you more and a consumable/item - you still can die if you're not careful from the vandals while going to orbit Polo's griding ranks: 2 angle grinders our of 5 Yes, it's guaranteed, but I feel like I'm wasting my time too much. I'm not doing enough to make it worth my while. It is a nice break from the 3 Musketeers and that is good
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 12:27:06 GMT -5
markopolo What's wrong with the Exclusion zone? Why don't you just use this? It's pretty simply and involves very little work or effort. You start right at the beginning (about a min to get going) and all you have to do is kill like seven yellow majors, while ignoring the rest. All of them majors spawn right in front of you. Drop them all, pick up stuff, die and repeat. Practicality and principle 1. I like farming while doing bounties, something that the exclusion zone doesn't really give me. Furthermore, it can hinder my bounty progress when I die 2. I don't have mars unlocked on 2 of my characters 3. Just in general, I don't like the dying to restart the mission 4. I'd rather do the 3 Musketeers for 30 minutes, get the 250ish glimmer per minute, do bounties at the same time, and be more active... than dying, reloading the mission, flying in, redoing the mission. I know it's just me... it's just the way I roll
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Post by wings on Apr 13, 2015 12:41:40 GMT -5
Just on heroic difficulty, level 3 will do. Sometimes the Glimmer item has dropped a little further away from the exact spot Riksis died. Alright... did it 10 times this weekend. Got 5 banners and 5 ether seeds Pros: - guaranteed drop each time - you know what you're getting - short, sweet, to the point - get it done quick - get to save $$$ in the bank, rather than having drops which you can max out Cons: - lots of idle time; I feel like I'n not doing much - only 25 glimmer at a time; other places give you more and a consumable/item - you still can die if you're not careful from the vandals while going to orbit Polo's griding ranks: 2 angle grinders our of 5 Yes, it's guaranteed, but I feel like I'm wasting my time too much. I'm not doing enough to make it worth my while. It is a nice break from the 3 Musketeers and that is good Yeah it's more for vaulting the House Banners for quick Iron Banner purchases really. I usually max out Glimmer so the House Banners, Silken Codex, Network Keys and Axiomatic Beads are usually more important than the Glimmer earning rate itself. I find Majors tend to be hit and miss on which Glimmer item they drop. Sometimes the Exclusion Zone gives me a shed load more Resupply Codes than Network Keys, for example.
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Post by iw5000 on Apr 13, 2015 12:50:09 GMT -5
markopolo What's wrong with the Exclusion zone? Why don't you just use this? It's pretty simply and involves very little work or effort. You start right at the beginning (about a min to get going) and all you have to do is kill like seven yellow majors, while ignoring the rest. All of them majors spawn right in front of you. Drop them all, pick up stuff, die and repeat. Practicality and principle 1. I like farming while doing bounties, something that the exclusion zone doesn't really give me. Furthermore, it can hinder my bounty progress when I die 2. I don't have mars unlocked on 2 of my characters 3. Just in general, I don't like the dying to restart the mission 4. I'd rather do the 3 Musketeers for 30 minutes, get the 250ish glimmer per minute, do bounties at the same time, and be more active... than dying, reloading the mission, flying in, redoing the mission. I know it's just me... it's just the way I roll - When you die on Exclusion zone, you don't restart out in orbit or back at the beginning. You literally restart right in front of all the stuff, right back in action. Respawn and in ten seconds, you are shooting yellow majors. It's that fast. - Don't need Mars unlocked.Glimmer is transferable between characters. If you have one character do it, it's shared by all three. - You can only carry so much glimmer. Ten minutes on Exclusion, twenty min max, and you are good to go. Is the opportunity cost really that much, you are losing that many farming things? - Any bounties done on the three musketeers...can be done in 120 seconds (Hive Majors, etc..). Then what? Why stick around there. Spend a min on the Musketeers, get your bounties done, THEN go to the exclusion zone for 15 min. You end up saving time either way. I feel like you are really missing some key points there.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 15:02:59 GMT -5
Practicality and principle 1. I like farming while doing bounties, something that the exclusion zone doesn't really give me. Furthermore, it can hinder my bounty progress when I die 2. I don't have mars unlocked on 2 of my characters 3. Just in general, I don't like the dying to restart the mission 4. I'd rather do the 3 Musketeers for 30 minutes, get the 250ish glimmer per minute, do bounties at the same time, and be more active... than dying, reloading the mission, flying in, redoing the mission. I know it's just me... it's just the way I roll - When you die on Exclusion zone, you don't restart out in orbit or back at the beginning. You literally restart right in front of all the stuff, right back in action. Respawn and in ten seconds, you are shooting yellow majors. It's that fast. - Don't need Mars unlocked.Glimmer is transferable between characters. If you have one character do it, it's shared by all three. - You can only carry so much glimmer. Ten minutes on Exclusion, twenty min max, and you are good to go. Is the opportunity cost really that much, you are losing that many farming things? - Any bounties done on the three musketeers...can be done in 120 seconds (Hive Majors, etc..). Then what? Why stick around there. Spend a min on the Musketeers, get your bounties done, THEN go to the exclusion zone for 15 min. You end up saving time either way. I feel like you are really missing some key points there. 1. Meh... it's still a period of inactivity where I'm not doing anything. 2. I don't just play one character. I am grinding up PoloIII. Unless it's for a raid, a weekly, or to level eq, I don't usually use PoloI or II. 3. If you are just doing the Hive Major bounty on the 3 Musketeers, you are doing it wrong. Killing Hive with an Axion bolt, Killing Hive from behind, Making 50 Orbs of light, 30 melee kills, killing only using arc/solar damage... those are all bounties that you can do... on top of earning 75-125 glimmer per attempt. Again, it comes down to preference and principle. I just don't like doing the exclusion zone... at least by myself. I did it with TheHawkNY and it was fun... but if I'm on my own, 3 Musketeers FTW
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 15:05:18 GMT -5
Yeah it's more for vaulting the House Banners for quick Iron Banner purchases really. I usually max out Glimmer so the House Banners, Silken Codex, Network Keys and Axiomatic Beads are usually more important than the Glimmer earning rate itself. I find Majors tend to be hit and miss on which Glimmer item they drop. Sometimes the Exclusion Zone gives me a shed load more Resupply Codes than Network Keys, for example. I can't beleive I forgot to mention this... While killing the dregs/vandals/shanks to make the boss spawn... one popped a purple chest bonbon. Said bonbon turned into a.... Heart of the Praxic Fire!!!! I still broke it down because the current one I have has better stats, but nevertheless, I love Dock 13... I have had so many bonbons pop there, and quite a few upgrade themselves.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Apr 13, 2015 15:13:52 GMT -5
- When you die on Exclusion zone, you don't restart out in orbit or back at the beginning. You literally restart right in front of all the stuff, right back in action. Respawn and in ten seconds, you are shooting yellow majors. It's that fast. - Don't need Mars unlocked.Glimmer is transferable between characters. If you have one character do it, it's shared by all three. - You can only carry so much glimmer. Ten minutes on Exclusion, twenty min max, and you are good to go. Is the opportunity cost really that much, you are losing that many farming things? - Any bounties done on the three musketeers...can be done in 120 seconds (Hive Majors, etc..). Then what? Why stick around there. Spend a min on the Musketeers, get your bounties done, THEN go to the exclusion zone for 15 min. You end up saving time either way. I feel like you are really missing some key points there. 1. Meh... it's still a period of inactivity where I'm not doing anything. 2. I don't just play one character. I am grinding up PoloIII. Unless it's for a raid, a weekly, or to level eq, I don't usually use PoloI or II. 3. If you are just doing the Hive Major bounty on the 3 Musketeers, you are doing it wrong. Killing Hive with an Axion bolt, Killing Hive from behind, Making 50 Orbs of light, 30 melee kills, killing only using arc/solar damage... those are all bounties that you can do... on top of earning 75-125 glimmer per attempt. Again, it comes down to preference and principle. I just don't like doing the exclusion zone... at least by myself. I did it with TheHawkNY and it was fun... but if I'm on my own, 3 Musketeers FTW Oh my god, are you doing all of those bounties on the three Musketeers? *facepalms* All of those bounties can be done more quickly, easily, and with more glimmer by using the Dark Beyond and the Fist of Crota. I need to walk you through this.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 15:30:03 GMT -5
1. Meh... it's still a period of inactivity where I'm not doing anything. 2. I don't just play one character. I am grinding up PoloIII. Unless it's for a raid, a weekly, or to level eq, I don't usually use PoloI or II. 3. If you are just doing the Hive Major bounty on the 3 Musketeers, you are doing it wrong. Killing Hive with an Axion bolt, Killing Hive from behind, Making 50 Orbs of light, 30 melee kills, killing only using arc/solar damage... those are all bounties that you can do... on top of earning 75-125 glimmer per attempt. Again, it comes down to preference and principle. I just don't like doing the exclusion zone... at least by myself. I did it with TheHawkNY and it was fun... but if I'm on my own, 3 Musketeers FTW Oh my god, are you doing all of those bounties on the three Musketeers? *facepalms* All of those bounties can be done more quickly, easily, and with more glimmer by using the Dark Beyond and the Fist of Crota. I need to walk you through this. Why? I have to farm for glimmer. I have to do bounties. Why not do them both at the same time? Take the melee bounty as an example - Fist of Crota 2 times - 50 glimmer for the 2 swordbearers, plus 200 for all the rest if I pop a BWI - 3 Musketeers 10 times - 750 glimmer plus silken codexes plus no death resets on any other applicable bounties. I know there are more efficient places. I know there are better places. But for glimmer farming and bounty synergy... nothing beats em
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Post by TheHawkNY on Apr 13, 2015 15:34:11 GMT -5
Oh my god, are you doing all of those bounties on the three Musketeers? *facepalms* All of those bounties can be done more quickly, easily, and with more glimmer by using the Dark Beyond and the Fist of Crota. I need to walk you through this. Why? I have to farm for glimmer. I have to do bounties. Why not do them both at the same time? Take the melee bounty as an example - Fist of Crota 2 times - 50 glimmer for the 2 swordbearers, plus 200 for all the rest if I pop a BWI - 3 Musketeers 10 times - 750 glimmer plus silken codexes plus no death resets on any other applicable bounties. I know there are more efficient places. I know there are better places. But for glimmer farming and bounty synergy... nothing beats em That's not even true. For glimmer farming and bounty synergy, nothing beats the "Defend the Conflux" public events in Ishtar Cliffs and the Citadel on Venus. More glimmer, more bounties completed, more patrol missions completed, plus the bonuses for completing public events.
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Post by markopolo on Apr 13, 2015 15:41:34 GMT -5
Why? I have to farm for glimmer. I have to do bounties. Why not do them both at the same time? Take the melee bounty as an example - Fist of Crota 2 times - 50 glimmer for the 2 swordbearers, plus 200 for all the rest if I pop a BWI - 3 Musketeers 10 times - 750 glimmer plus silken codexes plus no death resets on any other applicable bounties. I know there are more efficient places. I know there are better places. But for glimmer farming and bounty synergy... nothing beats em That's not even true. For glimmer farming and bounty synergy, nothing beats the "Defend the Conflux" public events in Ishtar Cliffs and the Citadel on Venus. More glimmer, more bounties completed, more patrol missions completed, plus the bonuses for completing public events. Meh.... personal preference, I suppose
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