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Post by markopolo on May 5, 2015 14:39:31 GMT -5
Oh please You said you (or others) didn't have it open. Everyone has Mars open by now. Come on. Up until recently, both of my characters only had up to the beginings of Venus unlocked. Once I hit 20, I was using them to raid and weekly. I had 0 reason to do mars. So.. yea... You also said the level wasn't right. You don't need to be high level. You can run EZ on like level 11 or 15, something like that. You need to set the exclusion zone to level 18 or higher to get the maximum farming And even your most copied above reasons...... "lack of gear requirements"? Come on. Not a reason. A thorn (or any decent pistol) and shotgun (any decent shotgun) is all I typically use, with a super. Ooooh... a Thorn... because everyone has one of those (eyeroll) They must grow on the trees in The Tower... is that the gun that Bungie gave out at Christmas time as the Token of Appreciation? Lemme guess... your next suggestion is to "whip out yer gjallie"? For the 3 musketeers you need 1) an axion bolt, and 2) a melee or two And 'ease of access'? There is no access issues with EZ. Enter it. It takes like 45 seconds to get going. And 'Player ability'? Jesus. If a person cant' hit targets in the EZ, at this point seven months in, you have no business playing this game. See above... if Mars isn't unlocked, there's a lack of access. The patrol in the Cosmodrome is the universally achieved Bottom line, you keep listing reasons that have no validity. Whatever... your opinion
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Post by iw5000 on May 5, 2015 14:48:55 GMT -5
You need to set the exclusion zone to level 18 or higher to get the maximum farming As I showed above, you can go less than optimal and farming 20,000 glimmer...the difference is less than a few minutes. You don't need to be doing the optimal 'max' thing. Splitting hairs there and it's only a few minutes either way. Never said that. What I said is this, " "A thorn (or any decent pistol) and shotgun (any decent shotgun) is all I typically use," Any weapon will work. Pistols work well, as it takes no effort to shoot slow moving Cabal, so a heavy hitting headshot weapon is all you need. Use Timur's Lash. TFPKY, etc... fair enough. But Mars is opened up pretty early. Like level 15 or 16 I think. It takes little effort to do that. A couple of ten minute Venus missions and it's opened up. Done.
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Post by markopolo on May 5, 2015 14:53:21 GMT -5
You need to set the exclusion zone to level 18 or higher to get the maximum farming As I showed above, you can go less than optimal and farming 20,000 glimmer...the difference is less than a few minutes. And as I've said many many many times already, yes: the exclusion zone is the most effecient place to farm glimmer and that the 3Muskies is notNever said that. What I said is this, " "A thorn (or any decent pistol) and shotgun (any decent shotgun) is all I typically use,"[/quote] and as I said, to kill the 3 musketeers, you need an axion bolt/fusion grenade and melee... no weapon requiredfair enough. But Mars is opened up pretty early. Like level 15 or 16 I think. It takes little effort to do that.[/quote] Each of my last 2 characters hit 20 2 mission into venus... I did unlock mars, but mainly for the patrol.
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Post by iw5000 on May 5, 2015 14:57:46 GMT -5
and as I said, to kill the 3 musketeers, you need an axion bolt/fusion grenade and melee... no weapon required [/font] ? But you always have weapons. It's not like you get an option to leave them in the vault.
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Post by markopolo on May 5, 2015 15:06:44 GMT -5
and as I said, to kill the 3 musketeers, you need an axion bolt/fusion grenade and melee... no weapon required [/font] ? But you always have weapons. It's not like you get an option to leave them in the vault.[/quote] Indeed... but my point is that you don't need a good or a decent or any weapon at all... white? sure! green? yup! Blue? Damn rights Everyone's a winner! Pick a weapon... any weapon. delete and recreate a character, and use some level 2/3/4 weapons. It doesn't matter When killing the 3 Musketeers, all you have to do is throw an axion bolt or a fusion grenade once the first 2 appear... if that doesn't kill all 3, melee the almost dead survivor. 75 to 125 glimmer right there. By the time you run up and down the stairs, your axion bolt will recharge (assuming you have some discipline gear, as any warlock should) and bingo bango
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Post by mannon on May 5, 2015 15:10:03 GMT -5
I think we have some very different situations here. For Marko I think what's going on is he's basically glimmer farming while doing other things, particularly at the musketeers, and getting more or less all the glimmer he needs. That's all well and fine. He does a lot PvE stuff, but really don't bother with Iron Banner and such. He probably just doesn't need enough Glimmer to bother going further out of his way to farm it. Just pop a glimmer item from time to time while running a strike or doing bounties.
Me, I'm the one that mostly doesn't have much time. I'm not doing strikes, and barely doing bounties. I do, however, enjoy Iron Banner. On the weeks when I do Iron Banner I've only got so much time to play and I need most of it to get up to the Iron Banner ranks in the first place, and still have to get my glimmer before the reset. So yeah... 3 musketeers isn't going to do it for me, and I don't bother. I go exclusion zone.
Now as for nitpicking exclusion zone tactics... I'm not nitpicking. I'm noticing that my runs in the exclusion zone do not seem to be as efficient as other people's runs and I don't like that. I want to get more efficient. I'm somewhat limited on my gear at the moment so I'm just trying to understand exactly how you get it efficient enough to glimmer cap in 30 minutes.
From what I can tell there are two major factors hurting me. First is not being able to quickly kill both groups unless I have rockets and thus having to pick them off. Sometimes that goes fast, sometimes not. Second, achieving a quick suicide is inconsistent. The red bars are really terrible at killing you quickly unless the shield guys slam you into an object, but that's iffy because sometimes they just ping you off 100 yards away and you have to run your ass back. Better just to stand in the mosh pit and maybe use a grenade. I need to try the scatter grenades, though.
I need to experiment more. The only semi-consistent method I've gotten to work for me just isn't as efficient as it's supposed to be, so clearly I need to work on it. Upgrading some of my gear may also help.
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Post by markopolo on May 5, 2015 15:15:41 GMT -5
Mannon hit it right on the head... I really only drop a lot in glimmer when I've gone shopping at Xurs R Us for upgrades and new toys... and even then, it's only 14ish glimmer that I can easily get back in time for another Xursday
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Post by iw5000 on May 5, 2015 15:27:05 GMT -5
I think we have some very different situations here. For Marko I think what's going on is he's basically glimmer farming while doing other things, particularly at the musketeers, and getting more or less all the glimmer he needs. That's all well and fine. He does a lot PvE stuff, but really don't bother with Iron Banner and such. He probably just doesn't need enough Glimmer to bother going further out of his way to farm it. Just pop a glimmer item from time to time while running a strike or doing bounties. Ok. But I suppose it needs said, the whole purpose of this thread, is mostly discussing glimmer 'farming' techniques, how to get glimmer and get it fast, when you need to farm it. The discussion was never really about how to do 'X' bounty, and pick up some glimmer on the side. but anyways. I get it.
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Post by iw5000 on May 5, 2015 15:39:42 GMT -5
Now as for nitpicking exclusion zone tactics... I'm not nitpicking. I'm noticing that my runs in the exclusion zone do not seem to be as efficient as other people's runs and I don't like that. I want to get more efficient. I'm somewhat limited on my gear at the moment so I'm just trying to understand exactly how you get it efficient enough to glimmer cap in 30 minutes. Does it really matter? You farm 30 minutes. Does it really matter if you get 17,000 glimmer or 19,000 glimmer? Especially with your limited playtime. You find a grenade that kills you. Done. Throw it at your feet. You die. I wouldn't sweat it. Like I said above, a few minutes, one or two thousand glimmer difference will not matter. Even flubbing around in the EZ, still nets you a pretty high glimmer rate.
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Post by mannon on May 5, 2015 17:36:35 GMT -5
I get more glimmer than I've found anywhere else, but I'm not coming anywhere close to hitting the cap in 30 minutes so it does kind of matter to me. No I won't sweat over 5 minutes one way or another, but I'm not even getting close. I haven't timed it, but it took me a lot longer than it should have to get my IB items last night and I even had to go back for enough to get the spear. I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong or just not well equipped for it. So I'm working on it.
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Post by iw5000 on May 6, 2015 7:03:50 GMT -5
I get more glimmer than I've found anywhere else, but I'm not coming anywhere close to hitting the cap in 30 minutes so it does kind of matter to me. No I won't sweat over 5 minutes one way or another, but I'm not even getting close. I haven't timed it, but it took me a lot longer than it should have to get my IB items last night and I even had to go back for enough to get the spear. I'm sure that I'm doing something wrong or just not well equipped for it. So I'm working on it. Try this tonight. Use one of your buff thingys for the Cabal. They last ten minutes. Then go farm for ten minutes. Calculate how much glimmer you got over that time. If you can, measure how many cycles you do. If you need an extra 30 sec to finish a cycle, no big deal. Your final time might be 10:21 or 9:45. Let's find your Glimmer per min rate.
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Post by TheHawkNY on May 10, 2015 17:54:53 GMT -5
Just to return to what the absolute max return is on glimmer farming, the Gatekeeper in VoG is unquestionably the best. You'll kill 16 majors in roughly 60 seconds. It has by far the highest rate of glimmer per minute, even before you factor in the much higher consumables drop rate.
It's not just that you get the immediate return. The amount of polyphages you will quickly build up allows you to have one active whenever you're around Vex. I now use them without hesitation, and it keeps my glimmer up pretty well.
As for the issue of the checkpoint, I'll probably have it every Iron Banner at the very least, so don't hesitate to ask.
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Post by mannon on May 10, 2015 19:03:42 GMT -5
I'd like to try the gatekeeper thing, but I'll never have the checkpoint and I don't play enough to bother pestering anybody for a checkpoint I may not even use. ;3 I'll just stick to exclusion zone when I need glimmer.
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