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Post by thexclusiveace on Nov 19, 2016 17:02:23 GMT -5
Drift0r says the NV4-Vigilance fires at 769 RPM. The base is 606 RPM. Unless there's a nerf in another area, doesn't this make the Vigilance pretty much the best NV4? Maybe it explains how the NV4 kills so fast sometimes. And Ace says long barrel gives 25% bonus range to ARs. Can combine with suppressor (25% reduction) for net 90% range (93.75% actually). Just a minor correction, Long Barrel seems to have a 1.2 multiplier to range and suppressor .75 for ARs which nets to 90% reduction when combined. Keep in mind, that was hand tested so there is a bit of room for error. |
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 19, 2016 17:30:10 GMT -5
I just tested the NV-4 Vigilance and I don't think it shoots faster than the other NV-4 variants. If it does, I don't think its really noticeable and its definitely not at the ~750 rpm that is stated. Compare it to the KBAR-32 or the Karma-45 which should have similar RoFs, and you can feel those guns shoot a lot faster. I'm going back to my Prosperity
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Post by tobysi on Nov 19, 2016 19:21:31 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the vigilance shoots at 759. It doesn't feel any different than the base variant. Also I don't see why they would make the rare variant the best variant. They're all about making money. Getting a rare variant is a lot easier than an epic. Which means less money spent on supply drops and activision won't want that.
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Post by CalebImSoMetal on Nov 19, 2016 20:02:17 GMT -5
I think those should buy the app should get instant access to the google spreadsheet through a profile login basis. As of right now theres no recoil plots or anything and even whole guns are missing so we should be given the link through the app if we bought the full version. Thanks for all your hard work marvel!
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 19, 2016 23:57:07 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the vigilance shoots at 759. It doesn't feel any different than the base variant. Also I don't see why they would make the rare variant the best variant. They're all about making money. Getting a rare variant is a lot easier than an epic. Which means less money spent on supply drops and activision won't want that. I think you overestimate their competence in weapon balancing. And remember, it was common for the Enlisted and Professional variants to be the best back in AW. |
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Post by thexclusiveace on Nov 20, 2016 0:09:49 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the vigilance shoots at 759. It doesn't feel any different than the base variant. Also I don't see why they would make the rare variant the best variant. They're all about making money. Getting a rare variant is a lot easier than an epic. Which means less money spent on supply drops and activision won't want that. I just hand tested the vigilance at 60fps and compared to the base NV4 to double check, they have identical fire rates at 606RPM according to my tests (coded rate for the base is 612RPM). |
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 20, 2016 0:27:13 GMT -5
I seriously doubt the vigilance shoots at 759. It doesn't feel any different than the base variant. Also I don't see why they would make the rare variant the best variant. They're all about making money. Getting a rare variant is a lot easier than an epic. Which means less money spent on supply drops and activision won't want that. I just hand tested the vigilance at 60fps and compared to the base NV4 to double check, they have identical fire rates at 606RPM according to my tests (coded rate for the base is 612RPM). The game would have to run at around 51fps for the frame rounding to be that nuts. Actually, even 51 would only get it down to 612rpm, but that's within a pretty acceptable margin of error. Thanks for all your hard work, by the way, Ace. We all appreciate it. |
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Post by tobysi on Nov 20, 2016 1:03:55 GMT -5
Thanks for testing them Ace! I knew something wasn't right with that fire rate. I wonder why the code says 759? Weird.
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Post by mrdeeds on Nov 20, 2016 1:28:53 GMT -5
Someone posted a youtube video comparing the rate of fire on the base NV4 vs the Vigilance.
It looks like the rate of fire is exactly the same.
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Post by Lexapro on Nov 20, 2016 2:49:53 GMT -5
That's 500 Salvage I'll never get back...
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Post by haoz on Nov 20, 2016 3:56:07 GMT -5
I just hand tested the vigilance at 60fps and compared to the base NV4 to double check, they have identical fire rates at 606RPM according to my tests (coded rate for the base is 612RPM). The game would have to run at around 51fps for the frame rounding to be that nuts. Actually, even 51 would only get it down to 612rpm, but that's within a pretty acceptable margin of error. Thanks for all your hard work, by the way, Ace. We all appreciate it. Frame rounding isn't a thing anymore. |
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 20, 2016 3:59:18 GMT -5
The game would have to run at around 51fps for the frame rounding to be that nuts. Actually, even 51 would only get it down to 612rpm, but that's within a pretty acceptable margin of error. Thanks for all your hard work, by the way, Ace. We all appreciate it. Frame rounding isn't a thing anymore. It wasn't it BO3 but it could be in this game. Unless you've seen something I haven't. |
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Post by noyoucannot on Nov 20, 2016 5:46:40 GMT -5
Curious about stats for a few variants like Goliath, R3KT and Ripper. Been saving my salvage to see if any of them are exceptional. Got lucky with a drop and got String Theory KBAR which seems amazing.
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Post by truwarlord on Nov 20, 2016 6:11:38 GMT -5
Does anyone know if when the weapon stats come out it will also feature the variant stats?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 20, 2016 6:32:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know if when the weapon stats come out it will also feature the variant stats? When Marv releases his spreadsheet? Yes. We haven't gotten an answer on when they'll be in the app though. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 20, 2016 11:37:47 GMT -5
Ok, I spoke with Marv this morning and got it figured out. The reason for the confusion was that many of the items in the stats file are named for base, legendary, rare, etc. However, the actual variants in the game do not necessarily use the stats row that they would intuitively correlate with. Sometimes a base weapon uses the rare stats, sometimes (as in the case of the NV4) several variants will use the base stats, but have additional modifiers that are applied, and sometimes the variants do use the stats for the rare or legendary version, but still have additional modifiers. In summary, I have held off on adding the variants to the app because it wasn't clear how these were being handled and I would rather temporarily omit info than add something that has a high likelihood of being incorrect. Now that it is clear how they function, I will be adding all missing weapons and variants to the app.
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Post by thexclusiveace on Nov 20, 2016 12:31:39 GMT -5
Ok, I spoke with Marv this morning and got it figured out. The reason for the confusion was that many of the items in the stats file are named for base, legendary, rare, etc. However, the actual variants in the game do not necessarily use the stats row that they would intuitively correlate with. Sometimes a base weapon uses the rare stats, sometimes (as in the case of the NV4) several variants will use the base stats, but have additional modifiers that are applied, and sometimes the variants do use the stats for the rare or legendary version, but still have additional modifiers. In summary, I have held off on adding the variants to the app because it wasn't clear how these were being handled and I would rather temporarily omit info than add something that has a high likelihood of being incorrect. Now that it is clear how they function, I will be adding all missing weapons and variants to the app. Good to see you're getting this worked out. I'm curious about the ranges in the app, they changed quite suddenly I believe it was yesterday or the day before (NV4's damage drop-off changed from 30m to 41m). Based on my hand testing of these ranges and previous knowledge of ranges in CoD, the NV4's damage drop seems to be much more in line with 30m so I'm wondering if you could provide some insight on this change in the app. |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 20, 2016 12:44:39 GMT -5
Ok, I spoke with Marv this morning and got it figured out. The reason for the confusion was that many of the items in the stats file are named for base, legendary, rare, etc. However, the actual variants in the game do not necessarily use the stats row that they would intuitively correlate with. Sometimes a base weapon uses the rare stats, sometimes (as in the case of the NV4) several variants will use the base stats, but have additional modifiers that are applied, and sometimes the variants do use the stats for the rare or legendary version, but still have additional modifiers. In summary, I have held off on adding the variants to the app because it wasn't clear how these were being handled and I would rather temporarily omit info than add something that has a high likelihood of being incorrect. Now that it is clear how they function, I will be adding all missing weapons and variants to the app. Good to see you're getting this worked out. I'm curious about the ranges in the app, they changed quite suddenly I believe it was yesterday or the day before (NV4's damage drop-off changed from 30m to 41m). Based on my hand testing of these ranges and previous knowledge of ranges in CoD, the NV4's damage drop seems to be much more in line with 30m so I'm wondering if you could provide some insight on this change in the app. Sure, since I make apps for a variety of different games, I sometimes have to write code to support games from different studios - ex Valve, EA/DICE, and the various Activision studios. For a very brief time after I released the app, the distance unit conversion function was pointing to the function used for Valve games. Since valve uses a custom distance unit which is different from Activision/IW, it gave different range values. This was quickly corrected and is why you now see the new values. Keep in mind, the app doesn't update instantly, so I may have made the correction potentially 24 hours before it reached your device. |
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Post by thexclusiveace on Nov 20, 2016 12:46:56 GMT -5
Good to see you're getting this worked out. I'm curious about the ranges in the app, they changed quite suddenly I believe it was yesterday or the day before (NV4's damage drop-off changed from 30m to 41m). Based on my hand testing of these ranges and previous knowledge of ranges in CoD, the NV4's damage drop seems to be much more in line with 30m so I'm wondering if you could provide some insight on this change in the app. Sure, since I make apps for a variety of different games, I sometimes have to write code to support games from different studios - ex Valve, EA/DICE, and the various Activision studios. For a very brief time after I released the app, the distance unit conversion function was pointing to the function used for Valve games. Since valve uses a custom distance unit which is different from Activision/IW, it gave different range values. This was quickly corrected and is why you now see the new values. Keep in mind, the app doesn't update instantly, so I may have made the correction potentially 24 hours before it reached your device. Thanks for the response! |
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Post by haoz on Nov 20, 2016 14:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by banana on Nov 20, 2016 15:24:20 GMT -5
Is Marvel4 not going to do his weapon changelogs this year? |
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Post by tobysi on Nov 20, 2016 15:59:51 GMT -5
Is Marvel4 not going to do his weapon changelogs this year? Hopefully he does he did an awesome job on bo3 |
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Nov 21, 2016 6:20:27 GMT -5
brassmonkeigh What's happening with the ranges? Did everything get a shadow buff or something?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Nov 21, 2016 10:34:01 GMT -5
That's 500 Salvage I'll never get back... Remember Drifty to this day still thinks the Man O War has a 20 round mag. |
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Post by thewhitetestament on Nov 21, 2016 11:50:44 GMT -5
Hey, Marvel? Is there anyway you could possibly see what the final Special Ops challenge is in Infinite Warfare? There are 12 total. I've found 11 of them, but I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what the hell the last one is. It's not nuked out (30 gun streak in FFA), it's not master prestige, it's not dark sky camo -- I don't know what it could be that no one has stumbled upon it yet.
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Post by lustindarkness on Nov 21, 2016 12:10:46 GMT -5
Hey, Marvel? Is there anyway you could possibly see what the final Special Ops challenge is in Infinite Warfare? There are 12 total. I've found 11 of them, but I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what the hell the last one is. It's not nuked out (30 gun streak in FFA), it's not master prestige, it's not dark sky camo -- I don't know what it could be that no one has stumbled upon it yet. That has to be driving you crazy. LOL BTW, did you ever find the missing dancing banana? I reported it lost on your last video.  |
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 21, 2016 12:12:32 GMT -5
brassmonkeigh What's happening with the ranges? Did everything get a shadow buff or something? Good catch, check out Ace's question & my reply a few posts back. |
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Post by wwaa on Nov 21, 2016 13:52:30 GMT -5
As I play Terminal24/7 exclusively finding other "maps" "disgusting"
I need stats that work for me on my PC for myself ... but I can share them.
Guns I used so far:
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90 FPS/PC
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Widowmaker
ADS 0.41s
ADS 0.39s (+QD)
firetime 0.105, ROF 571rpm
RAW:
ADS 0,27s
ADS 0,13s (+QD) [maybe 0,135]
firetime 0.115, ROF 521rpm
NV4:
ADS 0,21s
ADS 0,10s (+QD) [maybe 0,105]
firetime 0.095, ROF 631rpm
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errors: [acceptable for me]
ADS: +/- 0.01s
ROF: +/- 15rpm
firetime: +/- 0.002s
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Post by clearshot on Nov 21, 2016 14:15:24 GMT -5
Hollow Point damage multiplier, anyone? Specifically for the M1, if possible.
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Post by brassmonkeigh on Nov 21, 2016 14:38:49 GMT -5
Hollow Point damage multiplier, anyone? Specifically for the M1, if possible. Hollow Point is normally a 1.35x multiplier for helmet/head, but on M1 it is 1.3x. |
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