bradman
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Post by bradman on Sept 20, 2017 15:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by wings on Sept 20, 2017 18:11:35 GMT -5
Ummm yeah I don't expect a Kotaku 'journo' to realise you get very few top weapons to remain competitive for PvP. It happens with every shooter. Do they have any vacancies?
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 8:11:40 GMT -5
I need to figure out how to get that
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 8:19:06 GMT -5
I have complained about as much as anyone about Destiny 1, for all the dozens of reasons I have listed before. But so far with Destiny 2, I have no real complaints. Yes, I still find Crucible to be a bit stupid, but in small doses, like completing challenges, it's not horrible. At least not enough to ruin the experience. Everything else? Pretty solid. I don't know how many hours I have played (maybe 24?), but the leveling process has been pretty smooth. The game tells you what to do, gives you options, avoids the need for silly repetitious farming like Destiny 1, and lets you go at your own pace. The game also seems to drop just enough to keep you happy, but not enough to bore you. The maps are also a bit more exploratory. Mostly it's been a good experience so far. The one small gripe I might have is you almost have to play this game with the internet by yours side, to constantly be looking up 'how to do ___". It's still a bit bewildering. There is no instruction manual. I can't even begin to imagine how many people just give up and don't realize what they are missing. Like the last game, how many never actually raided? Like over half? That's terrible. My take is that many of the people bitching are those who have played like multiple days or more. People who have already put in 100 plus hours into this game and maybe are bored? My only suggestion would be to go get a hobby that requires some exercise. Go do something physical. Get out of the house. Spend some of those hours on another activity and then maybe you won't be so bored and looking for other things from Bungie.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 8:32:42 GMT -5
I have finished the campaign, but apparently I haven't done the followup EDZ story missions. I don't have the quest/key thing from Devrim Kay.
So where are these follow up missions?
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Destiny 2 Mida Multi-Tool
Similar to certain Exotic weapons of the first game, unlocking the Mida Multi-Tool requires a number of specific steps. In brief, they are: 1.Complete the main story and all follow-up EDZ story missions 2.Get the Mida Mini-Tool from Devrim Kay as a quest reward 3.With a Scout Rifle, get 50 precision kills and 25 kills without reloading 4.Dismantle five Blue or Legendary Scout Rifles 5.Get 50 airborne kills with an SMG
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Post by GodMars on Sept 21, 2017 8:51:48 GMT -5
The game tells you what to do, gives you options, avoids the need for silly repetitious farming like Destiny 1, and lets you go at your own pace. HAHAHAHAHA, right. Wait until you're finished the story content. You'll spend weeks just chaining public events any time you're on. You'll have to if you wish to do any real content in this game.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 21, 2017 8:53:15 GMT -5
I have finished the campaign, but apparently I haven't done the followup EDZ story missions. I don't have the quest/key thing from Devrim Kay. So where are these follow up missions? Did you talk to everyone in the Tower?
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Post by qupie on Sept 21, 2017 8:57:36 GMT -5
The game tells you what to do, gives you options, avoids the need for silly repetitious farming like Destiny 1, and lets you go at your own pace. HAHAHAHAHA, right. Wait until you're finished the story content. You'll spend weeks just chaining public events any time you're on. You'll have to if you wish to do any real content in this game. I have read this before, but I don't see it honestly. How much time have you spend in this game? I must be over 100 now and I still have not reached a point where I needed to grind publics over and over. Do you not play nightfall/raid/crucible? Or do you only have 1 character? I don't know, but by the time all I could do was publics, I was well ahead of the 290. At that point you can do whatever really, prefer to hone my skills in the crucible over doing publics for some artificial/cosmetic light level stuff.
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markopolo
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Post by markopolo on Sept 21, 2017 9:25:11 GMT -5
I don't even know where to begin..... I mean, yea... he's right about #1: definintely the MIDA... but the others, I completely disagree with
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Post by qupie on Sept 21, 2017 9:28:19 GMT -5
Nameless midnight <3
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Post by markopolo on Sept 21, 2017 9:30:14 GMT -5
I won't lie to you... I'm liking edgy Datto (or at least... edgier Datto) First someone gets at him about how Destiny is just for youtube streamers and people who have lives and $hit like that can't do the fun stuff... he does thisThen someone calls him a bitch for defending the new nightfall setup... so he does thisGood on him for not being nice... it's a nice change
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 9:54:33 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHA, right. Wait until you're finished the story content. You'll spend weeks just chaining public events any time you're on. You'll have to if you wish to do any real content in this game. I have read this before, but I don't see it honestly. How much time have you spend in this game? I must be over 100 now and I still have not reached a point where I needed to grind publics over and over. Do you not play nightfall/raid/crucible? Or do you only have 1 character? I don't know, but by the time all I could do was publics, I was well ahead of the 290. At that point you can do whatever really, prefer to hone my skills in the crucible over doing publics for some artificial/cosmetic light level stuff. I am at 282 right now and have yet to really do heavy repetitious stuff. Like last night. I did three challenges, probably three or four public events, did a Crucible challenge (ok, this got grindy), did one or two other little things, and went from 271 to 282. It didn't feel grindish. Let me give an example from Destiny 1. Having to do that Cabal planet thing where I just played for 45 minutes doing the same scene over and over, glimmer farming. That was awful. Or having to sit in some area waiting for a public event, no clue when it was going to come (or looking at websites that may or may not be correct on the time).
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Post by GodMars on Sept 21, 2017 10:06:14 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHA, right. Wait until you're finished the story content. You'll spend weeks just chaining public events any time you're on. You'll have to if you wish to do any real content in this game. I have read this before, but I don't see it honestly. How much time have you spend in this game? I must be over 100 now and I still have not reached a point where I needed to grind publics over and over. Do you not play nightfall/raid/crucible? Or do you only have 1 character? I have no desire to run multiple characters. The content is exactly the same, and it's not deep enough to warrant a second playthrough. The Crucible is half-assed and often terribly un-fun to play. Nightfalls might be doable, but all I have seen of them so far makes them more of a hassle than the rewards are worth. And we do not have the people, nor do I want to dedicate the time, to run the raid.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 21, 2017 10:09:06 GMT -5
I am at 282 right now and have yet to really do heavy repetitious stuff. Like last night. I did three challenges, probably three or four public events, did a Crucible challenge (ok, this got grindy), did one or two other little things, and went from 271 to 282. It didn't feel grindish. I do not understand how you accomplished that with just those steps. That's the complete opposite of what I've experienced in this game.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 10:14:24 GMT -5
I have read this before, but I don't see it honestly. How much time have you spend in this game? I must be over 100 now and I still have not reached a point where I needed to grind publics over and over. Do you not play nightfall/raid/crucible? Or do you only have 1 character? I have no desire to run multiple characters. The content is exactly the same, and it's not deep enough to warrant a second playthrough. The Crucible is half-assed and often terribly un-fun to play. Nightfalls might be doable, but all I have seen of them so far makes them more of a hassle than the rewards are worth. And we do not have the people, nor do I want to dedicate the time, to run the raid. These are fair points. I can relate. I'm not going to run a 2nd or 3rd character this go around. Not going to fall into that trap. I already have a very addictive compulsive 'win' disorder inside of me, so I easily get sucked into these things. This is an easy stop gap measure for me, so that I don't like the time demands run away from. And like said above, why repeat everything? It's the exact same stuff. I did do that for Destiny 1, but it was more so because I felt forced. Initially I did it to double up on the Raid gear, due to lottery bullsh1t. Then I did it (making a hunter), because I wanted to do solo stuff.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 10:23:10 GMT -5
I am at 282 right now and have yet to really do heavy repetitious stuff. Like last night. I did three challenges, probably three or four public events, did a Crucible challenge (ok, this got grindy), did one or two other little things, and went from 271 to 282. It didn't feel grindish. I do not understand how you accomplished that with just those steps. That's the complete opposite of what I've experienced in this game. I looked on the left tabs and did about a milestone things. 1. I went up two levels over the couple of hours of playing, so I got two engrams. 2. I played ten crucible games for another milestone, a reward from the Crucible vendor. I think I got an exotic engram. 3. I cashed in crucible tokens after the ten above games....for another legendary engram. 4. I got two or three legendary engrams from the actual crucible games, post game rewards. 5. I spent most of my time talking on the phone to friends while playing the crucible...so I multitasked (I don't care how I do) 6. I finished some three challenge thing in the crucible, so I got a reward there. 7. I finished two heroic public events, two legendaries 9. I cashed in like three or four levels at the gunsmith, there's a few legendaries engrams, got higher guns. 10. Turned in some Essos world tokens, leveled up twice, got two legendaries. 11. At the end, a truck load of engrams came in due to clan people doing NF's and raids. Pure gift. Thank you heavy lifters!!!! Count all those up....one exotic and maybe 17 to 20 legendary engrams? Maybe more? Plus I got some reward gift thing for an exotic shotgun at 288. The other exotic I won, that gave me some 284 boots. So I went from like 271 to 280...then I bought a shitload of mods for all my purple gear (which opens up at 280, being able to buy mods), that raised a lot of purple armor +5. Then I infused a few guns up too....this got to me 282.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 10:41:59 GMT -5
I started on September 6th, Wednesday evening,...then guesstimate that I did six evenings from the 9/6 to 9/17. This got me from level 0, power 0....to level 20, power 261. Maybe 24 hours in playtime.
Then on Monday night (9/18), I did some campaign bonuses, mods, and other things to get to 266/267 to prep for the raid. Post raid and a later nightfall prizes brought me to 271. Long night, about seven hours.
Last night (9/20) went from 271 to 282 over about three to four hours.
Still a time suck. 35 hours over two weeks. Ouch.
Hopefully that can slow down and more fun on doing raid things now.
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bradman
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Post by bradman on Sept 21, 2017 10:54:37 GMT -5
I have read this before, but I don't see it honestly. How much time have you spend in this game? I must be over 100 now and I still have not reached a point where I needed to grind publics over and over. Do you not play nightfall/raid/crucible? Or do you only have 1 character? I have no desire to run multiple characters. The content is exactly the same, and it's not deep enough to warrant a second playthrough. The Crucible is half-assed and often terribly un-fun to play. Nightfalls might be doable, but all I have seen of them so far makes them more of a hassle than the rewards are worth. And we do not have the people, nor do I want to dedicate the time, to run the raid. No raid, no nightfall, no crucible, one character, yep, you out of shiz to do.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 21, 2017 12:12:11 GMT -5
These are fair points. I can relate. I'm not going to run a 2nd or 3rd character this go around. Not going to fall into that trap. I already have a very addictive compulsive 'win' disorder inside of me, so I easily get sucked into these things. This is an easy stop gap measure for me, so that I don't like the time demands run away from. And like said above, why repeat everything? It's the exact same stuff. I did do that for Destiny 1, but it was more so because I felt forced. Initially I did it to double up on the Raid gear, due to lottery bullsh1t. Then I did it (making a hunter), because I wanted to do solo stuff. I got talked into playing by my friends, and the main draw for me is being able to play with them. I can't remember the last time I played with some of the guys around here (BO3?), and it's good to be again. I was also sold on "the D2 Crucible in beta was a lot better than the Crucible in D1," which, not really. Definitely not if you solo-queue. That's been a big loss for me. I'd be less pissy if I had my choice of Strikes and Crucible game modes (and not this randomized nonsense), and if the Nightfall timer affected the loot that was dropped, not your ability to finish it. Hell, give me no loot if we don't beat the timer, if it means we get to practice on it and learn the best way through.
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Post by markopolo on Sept 21, 2017 12:22:55 GMT -5
I have no desire to run multiple characters. The content is exactly the same, and it's not deep enough to warrant a second playthrough. The Crucible is half-assed and often terribly un-fun to play. Nightfalls might be doable, but all I have seen of them so far makes them more of a hassle than the rewards are worth. And we do not have the people, nor do I want to dedicate the time, to run the raid. No raid, no nightfall, no crucible, one character, yep, you out of shiz to do. And you forgot the prestige modes too
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 12:34:48 GMT -5
These are fair points. I can relate. I'm not going to run a 2nd or 3rd character this go around. Not going to fall into that trap. I already have a very addictive compulsive 'win' disorder inside of me, so I easily get sucked into these things. This is an easy stop gap measure for me, so that I don't like the time demands run away from. And like said above, why repeat everything? It's the exact same stuff. I did do that for Destiny 1, but it was more so because I felt forced. Initially I did it to double up on the Raid gear, due to lottery bullsh1t. Then I did it (making a hunter), because I wanted to do solo stuff. I got talked into playing by my friends, and the main draw for me is being able to play with them. I can't remember the last time I played with some of the guys around here (BO3?), and it's good to be again. I was also sold on "the D2 Crucible in beta was a lot better than the Crucible in D1," which, not really. Definitely not if you solo-queue. That's been a big loss for me. I'd be less pissy if I had my choice of Strikes and Crucible game modes (and not this randomized nonsense), and if the Nightfall timer affected the loot that was dropped, not your ability to finish it. Hell, give me no loot if we don't beat the timer, if it means we get to practice on it and learn the best way through. Agree on the random stuff. I don't get that. Playing solo I get dumped against a lot of 3/4 person squads, and the TDM style of game is not suited for solo. Teams stick together, shoot together. Randoms all do their own thing. And 1 vs 2 or 1 v 3 is never a good matchup. Especially with wonky spawns and never being sure where people are going. But Control, which is similar to Dom...allows a sense of order that people sort of follow, going from one control point to the next. It forces people to follow an easier pattern to track. CoD is much easier to play solo. Destiny isn't. The ttk is to long.
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Post by markopolo on Sept 21, 2017 12:39:15 GMT -5
CoD is much easier to play solo. Destiny isn't. The ttk is to long. The story lines or the raid?
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Post by blackbarney on Sept 21, 2017 12:48:47 GMT -5
iw5000, yeah it's like Halo. That was an awful game to Lone-Wolf. Strength in numbers (same with Battlefield and most squad-play games like Overwatch). CoD was a great game to solo, you could wreck havoc alone in that game in almost any game mode.
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Post by pachiderm on Sept 21, 2017 13:08:30 GMT -5
So I may have bought this game as well. I expected very little and am actually kind of pleasantly surprised. Game feels very polished. Story is a major upgrade from the last game. Content is still lacking but that doesn't surprise me. I haven't played the raid or any nightfalls yet, but I like the idea of the game guides helping solo players complete content that would previously force you to join a clan or have a group of friends who all played Destiny at the same time every day. Crucible is a joke, but it always was. Most people suck, and i have yet to meet serious opposition that wasn't just a clan beating up on my low-rank randoms. I've only played about 20 games but it really seems like they might be waiting for people's ELO scores to solidify before actually matching people by skill. Overall I think this is a good installment in the franchise. Loot grind isn't as bad as it was. More content seems open to the player upon launch. Multiplayer content is far easier to access. I give this game a 6/10.
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Sept 21, 2017 13:40:59 GMT -5
I've put in 37 hours since grabbing the Xbox version the Saturday after launch. Which has left plenty of time to keep playing Siege and the occasional Rocket League session. I've got a 288 Warlock, and my Titan is up to about 278. There was a bit of autistic Nessus grinding in there. Zero Crucible. Overall pretty easy and I've got two Raid ready characters. I still have Nightfall on my Titan so he can definitely hit the 280 and beyond mark with just a little more game time. I'll start my Hunter soon. Really it's just that COD4Nuke level that makes me not want to start at any given time. You walk... so.. slow.... Let me skip that glorified cutscene. Since Nessus is mindless and kind of sucks, I think for my Hunter I'm just going to kick back, do all the Adventures and Lost Sector sort of stuff, and just sniping Public Events whenever I happen to cross paths with them. I think I can guarantee the game will be a lot more fun this way. iw5000, you should get the MIDA, but mostly just for the light level. I don't think it's that amazing for PVE. I lucked into a Kinetic Damage Mod for my first gun slot pretty quickly so I dumped my MIDA light into my Nameless Midnight (which has been my go to weapon ever since I grabbed it from the quest reward). That frees up my Exotic slot for Merciless. You'll want that next time you're facing down the Iron Chefs....
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Post by wings on Sept 21, 2017 15:02:40 GMT -5
Story is a major upgrade from the last game. That's not exactly difficult tbh.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 21, 2017 15:40:20 GMT -5
iw5000, you should get the MIDA, but mostly just for the light level. I don't think it's that amazing for PVE. I lucked into a Kinetic Damage Mod for my first gun slot pretty quickly so I dumped my MIDA light into my Nameless Midnight (which has been my go to weapon ever since I grabbed it from the quest reward). That frees up my Exotic slot for Merciless. You'll want that next time you're facing down the Iron Chefs.... I know I can be pretty dumb with this game at times, but I can't find a way to get step one done. --------------- How to get the Destiny 2 Mida Multi-Tool Similar to certain Exotic weapons of the first game, unlocking the Mida Multi-Tool requires a number of specific steps. In brief, they are: 1.Complete the main story and all follow-up EDZ story missions2.Get the Mida Mini-Tool from Devrim Kay as a quest reward 3.With a Scout Rifle, get 50 precision kills and 25 kills without reloading 4.Dismantle five Blue or Legendary Scout Rifles 5.Get 50 airborne kills with an SMG
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Post by Pegasus Actual on Sept 21, 2017 15:46:01 GMT -5
The mission you get shows up as a blue icon with like a crown on the map. I don't remember much beyond that.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Sept 21, 2017 16:10:38 GMT -5
The mission you get shows up as a blue icon with like a crown on the map. I don't remember much beyond that. Just keep doing what the blue icon tells you.
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Post by malgato on Sept 21, 2017 16:10:40 GMT -5
The mission you get shows up as a blue icon with like a crown on the map. I don't remember much beyond that. Yep, just to the north of the church where the gay British tea aficionado lives.
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