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Post by snakex on Dec 17, 2009 21:27:50 GMT -5
Looks pretty interesting, are you sure that the drop off points are right? I dunno how you could test it, but it looks a bit dodgy to me.
ok u must go on the side of the other player, then walk straight forward, u see your player swing her weapon. i count every time he swing the weapon on the left and found out when CR, MR, LR and WR beginns or ends. it took many time to make it correctly.
here i found out:
1 - 4 1/2 swing on the left CR
5 - 9 swing on the left MR
9 1/2 - 11 1/2 swing on the left LR
12+ swing on the left WR
I worked on it over 9hours
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Post by James on Dec 17, 2009 21:42:34 GMT -5
Snake, are you sure on those numbers? 43 for High dmg ar's/smgs and 33 for low dmg ar's/smgs is really inconsistent with previous results
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Post by playn on Dec 17, 2009 21:44:57 GMT -5
on the trains in derail they say 10metres per cart on them (i think its per cart). u can measure like that
the writing is on the actual carts
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Post by snakex on Dec 17, 2009 21:50:06 GMT -5
Snake, are you sure on those numbers? 43 for High dmg ar's/smgs and 33 for low dmg ar's/smgs is really inconsistent with previous results yes because of the fact that Painkiller give u a health boost on normal health of 330. and u need with a dmg of 33 only 10 shots and with 43 8 shot. but don´t know 43 or 42 it give the same result 17 shots with a low dmg AR on wide rangw on a guy with painkiller normal health. 17*20= 340 die 16*20=320 not die 6*55=330 die |
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Post by ssog on Dec 17, 2009 21:55:48 GMT -5
Snake, are you sure on those numbers? 43 for High dmg ar's/smgs and 33 for low dmg ar's/smgs is really inconsistent with previous results yes because of the fact that Painkiller give u a health boost on normal health of 330. and u need with a dmg of 33 only 10 shots and with 43 8 shot. but don´t know 43 or 42 it give the same result 1. Painkiller divides incoming damage by 3 (except it leaves knife damage unchanged). 2. The guys around here already have 100% accurate damage values taken directly from the MP logs. Every min and max damage ends in either a 0 or a 5. |
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Post by snakex on Dec 17, 2009 22:00:39 GMT -5
yes because of the fact that Painkiller give u a health boost on normal health of 330. and u need with a dmg of 33 only 10 shots and with 43 8 shot. but don´t know 43 or 42 it give the same result 1. Painkiller divides incoming damage by 3 (except it leaves knife damage unchanged). 2. The guys around here already have 100% accurate damage values taken directly from the MP logs. Every min and max damage ends in either a 0 or a 5. perhaps the XBOX version have other stats but i´m very sure painkiller gives u 330 see my example above |
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Post by James on Dec 17, 2009 22:09:24 GMT -5
I always thought painkiller just gave you 200 health, but dividing damage by 3 might make more sense, especially for 30 health mode.
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Post by snakex on Dec 17, 2009 22:14:02 GMT -5
I always thought painkiller just gave you 200 health, but dividing damage by 3 might make more sense, especially for 30 health mode. i have tested all weapons it give me the same result like my stats. i tested on normal, double and normal painkiller don´t know, i´m wrong or not. but i have only tested and writed and by me painkiller give a multiplie of 3.3 |
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Post by snakex on Dec 17, 2009 22:23:07 GMT -5
but when it devide the health by 3, why i need 17 shots instead of 15 shots. with 20 dmg
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Post by iKONIG on Dec 18, 2009 0:01:02 GMT -5
Well, presuming that those stats are all correct. I give you a super virtual high five, from the one and only iKONIG! Any one else wanna contribute a virtual high five?
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Post by mannon on Dec 18, 2009 0:04:21 GMT -5
20 / 3 = 6.666...
6 * 17 = 102
Aparently it does not round up, but truncates down to the nearest integer, thus 20 becomes 6 damage.
Mystery solved.
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Post by ssog on Dec 18, 2009 2:09:02 GMT -5
20 / 3 = 6.666... 6 * 17 = 102 Aparently it does not round up, but truncates down to the nearest integer, thus 20 becomes 6 damage. Mystery solved. You beat me to it. No CoD games leave floating decimals- they always truncate all decimals before proceeding. |
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Post by mannon on Dec 18, 2009 3:11:57 GMT -5
Good old integer variables.
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 6:24:07 GMT -5
20 / 3 = 6.666... 6 * 17 = 102 Aparently it does not round up, but truncates down to the nearest integer, thus 20 becomes 6 damage. Mystery solved. only one thing destroy my theory of 3.3 painkiller 35*9= 315 die so i have update the list know found out stopping power don´t work, when u shoot on a teammate |
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 11:08:30 GMT -5
found out every gun has his own range stat. i will post a pistol stat list soon.
it shows the different range stats.
so then i will test AR of the different range stats
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Post by qupie on Dec 18, 2009 11:23:57 GMT -5
thnx allot Snakex  and at painkillers, who gives a crap... its 300 or 330, please stop filling this verry important (maybe most) topic with crap on another subject... 300 or 330 doesnt make a big difference. |
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 13:00:45 GMT -5
i finished the MP and Pistol Chart.
these stats are accurater then the others.
the AR and SMG stats will update tomorrow and i add sniper and LMG stats.
on the next week i make silencer stats
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Post by ssog on Dec 18, 2009 15:16:48 GMT -5
thnx allot Snakex and at painkillers, who gives a crap... its 300 or 330, please stop filling this verry important (maybe most) topic with crap on another subject... 300 or 330 doesnt make a big difference. Actually, the mechanics of Painkiller make a *HUGE* difference, since he's testing damage values by using Painkiller. He was basing all damage figures on the assumption that Painkiller gives 330 life, when in reality Painkiller divides all damage by 3 and then truncates (while leaving you with 100 health). As a result of that incorrect assumption, all of the damage figures were wrong. Now that his assumption has been corrected, all of the damage figures are right. |
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 16:59:52 GMT -5
omg i tested the AR and some guns have AMAZING range
i don´t tell wich weapons.
example SCAR-H have not the same Range as M16 and FAMAS, etc...
finish the test with SMGs then edit the Chart and upload
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Post by phinsphan on Dec 18, 2009 17:05:16 GMT -5
I registered just to give you props.
Snakex keep up the good work.
This also explains why the FAL performs poorly on large levels. It no longer does 2 hit kills in a shorter distance than the rest of the A/R.
Also, is it true the M93 does 40-30? I would think this makes the gun the obvious choice of backup weapons.
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Post by Den on Dec 18, 2009 17:26:48 GMT -5
The MP log shows 40 and 30 as the two most common ranges of damage for the Raffica.
It is pretty much a mini M16.
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Post by phinsphan on Dec 18, 2009 17:34:07 GMT -5
^That is crazy.
The pistol drop off is very interesting as well as the M9 does 40 damage further than the USP. I would have guessed the complete opposite.
Has anyone done weapon swap speeds on the secondary weapons. Or even primaries for that matter?
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Post by cptmacmillan on Dec 18, 2009 17:42:49 GMT -5
And the deagle is shorter than the .44. It's weird how the ones that already the worse of the pairs are further shortchanged by range.
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 18:28:59 GMT -5
so i finished AR and SMG, these are updated and accuratly.
these stats are not 100% correct, but 80-90% 
(100% only in game files)
next week, LMG, Sniper and all weapons with Silencer
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Post by snakex on Dec 18, 2009 18:29:30 GMT -5
-delete-
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Post by unknown on Dec 18, 2009 21:31:54 GMT -5
that would mean the fal really is a fail weapon.
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Post by iKONIG on Dec 18, 2009 22:24:46 GMT -5
The FAL, I think sits in there quite nicely, not underpowered, nor overpowered. I'm a little surprised about the FAMAS vs M16. Didn't Den clarify that the both have the same RPM?
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Post by ssog on Dec 18, 2009 22:36:05 GMT -5
Very interesting to see the FAMAS with a longer range than the M16. It seems that all objective data points to it being the superior gun. Which wouldn't surprise me- IW has a history of weakening guns that were the most popular in previous installments, so it'd make sense for the M16 to be a weaker version of the FAMAS.
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Post by snakex on Dec 19, 2009 0:14:09 GMT -5
i finished the Chart really
so here the full chart list
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Post by snakex on Dec 19, 2009 0:14:37 GMT -5
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