Advanced Warfare: List of every Weapon Variant

[Will]

UPDATE: All of the real stats (from marvel) have been entered into an easy-to-read spreadsheet.
Check it out here: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z3-syTEbrn5J2FKt_2yAEuHjsQ3DXtzbW_tTdCvAyo4/


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Here is a list of every weapon variant currently in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. This will be updated as more are discovered or added to the game. For the most part, there are two (2) elite variants of each weapon, three (3) professional variants, and four (4) enlisted variants. Every weapon also has a "Marksman" version unlocked at 300 kills, which cannot be destroyed for XP. There are also some other undestroyable (white text) variants unlocked through other means, and for these weapons it usually means there is one (1) less professional variant. Also, for the Specials and Launchers, the variants are simply alternative skins, and there are only two (2) elites, one (1) enlisted, and one (1) "Marksman" variants.

A sortable, searchable chart of all the variants by TheHawkNY: www.numbersmason.com/cod/aw/variants/variants-list/

Damage and range stats by Marvel4: denkirson.proboards.com/thread/7503/advanced-warfare-damage-range
Fire rate stats by Marvel4: denkirson.proboards.com/thread/7510/advanced-warfare-fire-rates


Assault Rifles

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Bal-27
Obsidian Steed [Elite] (Damage +2, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Inferno [Elite] (Handling +2, Fire Rate +1, Mobility -3)
Marksman [Professional] (Integrated ACOG Scope, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
.308 [Professional] (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
SPR [Professional] (Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity +3 rounds, Fire Rate -2)
Tactical [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Assaulter [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Carbon [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Virtue [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
223 [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
AE [Advanced Arsenal pre-order] (Atlas-style camo)

AK-12
Finger Trap [Elite] (Handling +3, No Attachments Allowed, Ghosts style iron sights)
R.I.P. [Elite] (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Magazine Capacity -8 rounds, Mobility -1)
Lance [Professional] (Range +2, Handling -1, can only use optical attachments)
Feeder [Professional] (Magazine Capacity +3 rounds, Reserve Magazines +1, Handling -2)
Bleeder [Professional] (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Grenadier [Enlisted] (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Handling +1, Ghosts style rear iron sight, alternate front sight)
Competition [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Magazine Capacity -1)
Fluted [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Hair Trigger [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Wrecker [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Accuracy -2, Ghosts style iron sights)
G [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus]

ARX-160
Steel Bite [Elite] (Damage +3, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1)
Damnation [Elite] (Accuracy +2, Range +1, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Hole Puncher [Professional] (Damage +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Head Shot [Professional] (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)
Red Eye Coyote [Professional] (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Tactical [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Superlite [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Adapter [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Heavy Barrel [Enlisted] (Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Spoliator [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)

HBRa3
Insanity [Elite] (Fire Rate +2, Damage +1, Handling -1, no optical attachments)
Bear Fist [Elite] (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Handling +2, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Cowboy [Professional] (Integrated Dual Mags, Accuracy -1)
Raider [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Superlite [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Competition [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Adapter [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Sport [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Average Joe [Marksman (300 kills)] (Damage +1, Range +1, Handling -2)
Lead Launcher [Maxing out Weapon Proficiency in Exo Survival] (Accuracy +1, Handling +1, Fire Rate -2)

IMR
Thunder Tusk [Elite] (Accuracy +3, Handling -1, Magazine Capacity -8 rounds)
Boar Strike [Elite] (Range +2, Damage +1, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1)
Heart Breaker [Professional] (Integrated Parabolic Microphone, Damage -1)
Hushed [Professional] (Integrated Suppressor, Handling -1)
Pillager [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Range -1)
Impact [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Hunter [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Defense [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Mobility -1)
Lightweight [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Feedback [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Range -1)

MK14
Eagle Eye [Elite] (Integrated Quickdraw Grip, Range +2, Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity -1, most attachments are not allowed)
Eclipse [Elite] (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -2)
Desecrator [Professional] (Fire Rate +2, Mobility -2)
Ultralite [Professional] (Handling +2, Range -2)
Obituary [Professional] (Integrated Target Enhancer, Range -1)
Hardtip [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Handling -1)
Signature [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Deluxe [Enlisted] (Magazine Capacity +1, Fire Rate -1)
Sport [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Sheriff [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +2, Handling -2)

AE4
Gigawatt [Elite] (Damage +1, Mobility +2, Handling -2, Range -1)
Shocker [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Accuracy -1, Damage -2)
Void [Professional] (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)
Vortex ()
Vaporizer ()
Supernova ()
Macroshock ()
Equinox ()
Venom [Marksman (300 kills)] (Mobility +2, Range -2)
Widowmaker [Season Pass] (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)

Submachine Guns

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KF5
Breakneck [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Accuracy -1; can't use rapid fire, extended mags, dual mags, stock, or quickdraw grip)
Spanner [Elite] (Range +3, Fire Rate -2, Handling -1)
Genuine [Professional] (Accuracy +1, Damage +1, Range -1, no optical attachments)
Endless [Professional] (Range +1, Mobility +1, Magazine Capacity -10 rounds)
Locomotive [Professional] (Mobility +2, Fire Rate -1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Scout [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Single Stack [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Sporter [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Savior [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Marxman [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)

MP11
Goliath [Elite] (Damage +3, Handling -3)
Squeaker [Elite] (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -2)
Savior [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Toxic [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Plunderer [Professional] (Mobility +2, Accuracy -2)
Airborne [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Scout [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Deceiver [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Express [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Devourer [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)

ASM1
Strider [Elite] (Range +2, Damage +1, Accuracy -3)
Speakeasy [Elite] (Integrated Extended Mags, Fire Rate +2, Damage -1, Range -1)
Competence [Professional] (Damage +1, Handling +1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Rigor [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Handling -2)
Reckless [Professional] (Integrated Rapid Fire, Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Sweeper [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Fire Rate -1)
Reliable [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Scout [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Extended [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Magnitude [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Handling -1, Mobility -1)

SN6
Money [Elite] (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Reserve Magazines +1, Handling -1, Mobility -2)
The Third [Elite] (Range +2, Damage +1, Mobility -3)
Executioner [Professional] (Damage +1, Handling +1, Range -2)
Jury [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
K [Professional] (Integrated Foregrip, Fire Rate +1, Damage -2)
Hammer [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
C-Mas [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Precision [Enlisted] (Range +1, Mobility -1)
Cycled [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Magistrate [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Mobility -1)

SAC3
Pain & Suffering [Elite] (Accuracy +3, Damage -2, Range -1)
Blood & Glory [Elite] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -2)
Fire & Brimstone [Professional] (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Crime and Punishment [Professional] (Accuracy +1, Handling +1, Fire Rate -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Misery & Company [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Handling -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Sporter [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1) (White Base Camo)
S [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
JK [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Rapid [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Thunder & Lightning [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Damage -1)

AMR9
Pro Pipe [Elite] (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Dynamo [Elite] (Fire Rate +2, Mobility +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Banger [Professional] (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Handling +1, Range -1)
Skill Cannon [Professional] (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Hipshot [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Express [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Featherweight [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Paratrooper [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Handling -1)
Shorty [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Outlaw [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)

Sniper Rifles

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Lynx
Kingpin [Elite] (Integrated Parabolic Microphone, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Tack-Driver [Elite] (Accuracy +3, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Combatant [Professional] (Handling +2, Accuracy -2)
Quarterback [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Variable [Professional] (Integrated Variable Zoom Scope, Accuracy -2)
Flared [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Ammo -1)
Slung [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Improved Action [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
13 Twist [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Snake Oil [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Fire Rate -1, Mobility -1)

MORS
Silver Bullet [Elite] (Damage +2, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -2, Handling -1)
The Doctor [Elite] (Fire Rate +2, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Mobility -1)
Ransacker [Professional] (Damage +1, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1, Mobility -1)
Penetrator [Professional] (Damage +1, Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Tumbler [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Long Rifle [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Quick Bolt [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Slung [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Lullaby (Integrated Ballistic CPU, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Pummeler [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)

NA-45
Screamin' [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Damage -1, Handling -2)
Ravager [Elite] (Damage +3, Fire Rate -3)
Hurried [Professional] (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Exact [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -2)
Rover [Professional] (Mobility +2, Damage -2)
HE [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
M [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Sharpshooter [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Handling -1)
Agile [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
Feint [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Accuracy -2)

Atlas 20mm
Virtuosity [Elite] (Handling +3; Damage -3)
Snapper [Elite] (Fire Rate +2; Magazine Capacity +1; Accuracy -3)
Presto [Professional] (Fire Rate +2; Magazine Capacity -1; Reserve Magazines -1)
Carnage [Professional] (Damage +1; Accuracy +1; Magazine Capacity -1)
Hypersonic [Professional] (Fire Rate +2; Handling -2)
Interrupt [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1; Mobility -1)
Skilled [Enlisted] (Handling +1; Accuracy -1)
13 Twist [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1; Fire Rate -1)
Improved Action [Enlisted] (Magazine Capacity +1; Handling -1)
Talent [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +1; Mobility +1; Accuracy -1; Fire Rate -1)

Shotguns

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Tac-19
Bang Stick [Elite] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Mobility +1, Range -2, Accuracy -1)
Sledgehammer [Elite] (Accuracy +2, Magazine Capacity +1, Handling -1, Mobility -2)
Round House [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Mobility -1)
Haymaker [Professional] (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Upper Cut [Professional] (Damage +1, Accuracy +1, Range -1, Mobility -1) (Yellow Base Camo)
Barricade [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Breacher [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Runner [Enlisted] (Mobility +1, Damage -1) (White/Grey Base Camo)
Lite Trigger [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Jab [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +1, Mobility +1, Magazine Capacity -1, Range -1)

S-12
Whirlwind [Elite] (Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity +2, Accuracy -2, Handling -1)
Tiger Blood [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Accuracy -2, Damage -1)
Galant [Professional] (Reserve Magazines +2, Handling -2)
Quiet Time [Professional] (Integrated Suppressor, Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Vengeance [Professional] (Integrated Foregrip, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Varmint [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Compliant [Enlisted] (Magazine Capacity +2, Handling -1)
N [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
U [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Adroit [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)

Bulldoge
Mancy [Elite] (Integrated Target Enhancer, Accuracy +1)
Face Hammer [Elite] (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Handling -1, no optical attachments)
Carnage [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1)
Diplomacy [Professional] (Integrated Foregrip, Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Berzerker [Professional] (Damage +1, Handling +1, Magazine Capacity -2, Reserve Magazines -1)
Grip Taped [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Mobility -1)
Rifled [Enlisted] (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Quick Barrel [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Damage -1)
Breacher [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Man-o-War [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Damage -2)

Heavy Weapons

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EM1
Pwner [Elite] (Damage +2, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1) (Purple Beam)
Polar Vortex [Elite] (Handling +2, Fire Rate +1, Mobility -3) (Green Beam)
The End [Professional] (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1) (Yellow Beam)
Sweet Dreams [Professional] (Integrated Sight, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1) (Yellow Beam)
The Last Laugh [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -2) (Yellow Beam)
M-Coil [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Damage -1) (Blue Beam)
Magnified [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1) (Blue Beam)
LEL [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1) (Blue Beam)
Dimension [Enlisted] (Mobility +1) (Blue Beam)
Vera [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2) (Yellow Beam)
Quantum [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus] (Red Beam)

Pytaek
Loophole [Elite] (Magazine Capacity +50 bullets, Accuracy +1, Handling -3)
Exploit [Elite] (Range +3, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Magazine Capacity -1)
Expanse [Professional] (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)
Methodic [Professional] (Accuracy +2, Damage -1, Range -1)
Savvy [Professional] (Integrated ACOG Scope, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Adept [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
LR [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Magnified [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Eradicator [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Hasty [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Ammo Capacity +1, Accuracy -2)

XMG
Bacon & Eggs [Elite] (Damage +3, Accuracy -3)
Bread & Butter [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Damage -1)
Smoke & Mirrors [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Beer & Pretzels [Professional] (Range +2, Magazine Capacity -1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Death & Taxes [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Fire Rate +1, Range -2)
Venus & Mars [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Yin & Yang [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Meat and Potatoes [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Black & White [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Chicken and Waffles [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)

EPM3
Parsec [Elite] (Range +3, can't use certain attachments)
Bona Fide [Elite] (Accuracy +3, Damage -2, Fire Rate -1)
Panorama [Professional] (Integrated Heat Sink, Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Legit [Professional] (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Longitude [Professional] (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Anodized [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Interval [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Magnified [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
M-Coil [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Exterminator [Marksman (300 kills)] (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)

Ameli
Whale Horn [Elite] (Handling +2, Magazine Capacity +50 bullets, Damage -2, Accuracy -1)
Chicanery [Elite] (Integrated Advanced Rifling, Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity -50 bullets)
Spacer [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Accuracy -1)
Subverter [Professional] (Damage +2, Magazine Capacity -50 bullets)
Crafty [Professional] (Integrated Foregrip, Handling +1, Damage -1)
Magnified [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Accelerated [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Swift [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Heavy [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Handling -1)
Redshirt [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)

Pistols

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Atlas 45
Oath Breaker [Elite] (Integrated Target Enhancer, Handling +2, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1)
Huckleberry [Elite] (Handling +3, Accuracy -2, Damage -1)
Flogger [Professional] (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
Cudgel [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
Woo [Professional] (Integrated Akimbo, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1, Magazine Capacity -1, no optical attachments)
Ranger [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
A1 [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
A2 [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Range -1)
A3 [Enlisted] (Handling +1, Damage -1)
A3M2 [Marksman (300 kills)] (Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Handling+2)
AE [Advanced Arsenal pre-order]

RW1
Rail Driver [Elite] (Damage +3, Accuracy -3)
Holiday [Elite] (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +2, Accuracy -1)
Guardian [Professional] (Integrated Scope, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Radiance [Professional] (Integrated Target Enhancer, Handling +1, Damage -1)
Xeno [Professional] (Damage +2, Range -1, Handling -1)
Tempest [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Typhoon [Enlisted] (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Spectrum [Enlisted] (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Prototype [Enlisted] (Damage +1, Range -1)
Spitfire [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +1, Handling +1, Accuracy -2)

MP-443 Grach
One Wood [Elite] (Range +3, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Feeling Lucky [Elite] (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +2, Damage -1, Handling -1)
Sighted [Professional] (Integrated Laser Sight, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Snappy [Professional] (Integrated Akimbo, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
H1 [Professional] (Integrated Attachment, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Compass [Enlisted] (Range +1, Damage -1)
Dimension [Enlisted] (Range +1, Handling -1)
Spectrum [Enlisted] (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Latitude [Enlisted] (Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Hasty [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Handling -2)

PDW
Crusher [Elite] (Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity +1, Damage -2, Handling -1)
Chucker [Elite] (Fire Rate +3, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Chop-Chop [Professional] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Dead Eye [Professional] (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Ion [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
CQB [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Sub Cal [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Compact [Enlisted] (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Rage (Integrated ACOG Scope, Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
Condensed [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Handling -2)

Launchers

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Stinger M7
Firehawk [Elite]
Nighthawk [Elite]
Seeker [Enlisted]
Warden [Marksman (300 kills)]

MAAWS
Oppressor [Elite]
Ignition [Elite]
Tornado [Enlisted]
Thunder [Marksman (300 kills)]

MAHEM
Fused [Elite]
Bull [Elite]
Malice [Enlisted]
Flak [Marksman (300 kills)]

Specials

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Heavy Shield
Salvation [Elite]
Nugget [Elite]
Disruptor [Enlisted]
Catalyst [Marksman (300 kills)]

MDL
Backdraft [Elite]
Shockwave [Elite]
Proper [Enlisted]
Wildfire [Marksman (300 kills)]

Crossbow
Righteous [Elite]
Conqueror [Elite]
Frosty [Enlisted]
B2 [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus]

[Will]

Added some color to hopefully make it easier to read.

[dunsparceflinch]

The marksman for the s12 is Adroit [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)

[Will]

Nov 21, 2014 0:59:19 GMT -5 dunsparceflinch said:

The marksman for the s12 is Adroit [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)

Thanks, added it in.

If anybody else sees anything missing or has corrections of any mistakes please post them.

[sixone]

After 2.75 days and unlocked a number of variants here are the standout weapons.

In general I find no use for SMGs (see below for exceptions). They fire too slow and require too many BTK. I have both Elite versions of the SN6 but haven't bothered to get more than 25 kills with them.

MP11 Goliath. 4HK >30m. 900rpm. I cycle Primary Gunfighter between Grip, Extended Mags, Parabolic, & Suppressor.

OK, that's it, end of list, j/k, but seriously my fave gun 2k kills and counting...

Ameli Subverter. Longest 3HK range I'm aware of for full auto. Headshot multiplier gives 2HK to a long range as well. Can put on Rapid Fire for 720 rpm, but even with Foregrip recoil can negate the low BTK due to missing shots. I have inconsistent results but will still use it to hold down flags.

AK12: Feeder & RIP. 4-5HK not liked by some even with low recoil given the other AR options, however Feeder gives extra ammo so can forego Scavenger freeing up a spot. A niche weapon but can excel in its range. RIP has a low bullet mag but even more accurate than default AK and 4HK at all ranges. Options limited on the RIP since Extended Mags is required imo, but if you want a guaranteed 4HK at range this may be the gun for you.


Guns I haven't unlocked but am interested in:

SAC3: JK and Fire & Brimstone. Both give a damage increase so it means it becomes a 4-5HK as well as likely extending the 4HK range. However Fire & Brimstone while increasing the Damage +2 also reduces the Fire Rate -2. By default I put Rapid Fire on my SAC3 so if the Fire Rate reduction drops it out of one of the rpm levels (450, 514, etc.) I'll stick with the JK. I have a couple of variants that give Fire Rate +1 but it doesn't appear to increase the rpm.

MK14: Eclipse & Hardtip both give a Damage increase so it's assumed it's a 2-3HK. The question is how long is the 2HK range and if there are any multiplier changes that allow for more consistent 2HKs.

HBRa3 Insanity. The stats imply 720 rpm and 3-4HK. May compete with the Bal, but the drawback is you have to use the irons.

Bal-27: Obsidian Steed & Carbon. Both give Damage increases. The Obsidian Steed drops the Fire Rate so does it then become the HBRa3 Average Joe (3-4HK @ 600 rpm) with better irons? Carbon may be the way to go.

[Pegasus Actual]

RNG drops are garbage. I was a lot happier when I mistakenly thought there was just one elite variant for the various weapons and that you won't get the same weapon twice. And the whole thing is mostly pointless anyway since chances are vanilla Bal is going to be way better than anything you unlock, unless it's a better Bal.

I think it's gotten to the point where I'm pinning my hopes on Treyarch to come up with something decent. And generally I'm "fuck Treyarch" guy. But clearly Black Ops 3 is gonna be the last hope for this franchise.

[sixone]

Yeah, I've gotten some weapons like a half dozen times. I'd much prefer having a challenge to unlock a weapon that having elite Shields and crap SMGs like I do now. But yeah, eve tho I have only 300 kills with it I can pick up the vanilla Bal and do just as well as I do with any other gun.

[Ironforce92]

What is the best KF5?
Breakneck = 900+ rpm, high recoil
Spanner = 720 rpm(?) more range(?)

[kylet357]

Recoil on the Breakneck isn't that high.

[Will]

I agree with sixone. MP11 Goliath and HBRa3 Insanity are the clear winners. I have unlocked almost every elite except those two, of course....

I really hate that our fate in having the best weapons comes down to complete random luck with an RNG... this is like 10x worse than having the best guns as high-level unlocks.

My crew got completely walked over by a team that had all 6 members using the Goliath. It's a 1HK at all ranges in Hard core, with SMG speed and RoF, better than any AR.

[banana]

The mp11 Goliath and the bal 27 carbon definitely look like the best. I wonder if the recoil is bad on the carbon tho? The hbra3 insanity looks good but I would have to know how different it is from the bal. Since I don't have the game yet (my mom wants me to be a Christmas noob, but I am also getting the ps4 with it so that's cool) I want to know if

1. Is damage better than range on the shotguns?

2. If damage affects snipers or rather the mors because I don't care about the others lol, a lot?

3. Does fire rate affect the mors?

4. Does accuracy affect sniper sway?

P.S. I'm 17

[cashmoves]

Nov 21, 2014 12:32:40 GMT -5 banana said:

Since I don't have the game yet (my mom wants me to be a Christmas noob, but I am also getting the ps4 with it so that's cool) I want to know if

2. If damage affects snipers or rather the mors because I don't care about the others lol, a lot?

3. Does fire rate affect the mors?

4. Does accuracy affect sniper sway?

P.S. I'm 17

get a fucking JOB!

just kidding, jobs suck.

i second the young gentleman's (gentlewoman's?) questions. i would assume damage on sniper rifles is pointless because multipliers etc remain the same...

[wwaa]

Nov 20, 2014 20:04:44 GMT -5 Will said:

Added some color to hopefully make it easier to read.

great, thank you, but you made it worse to read : )

a better version is here:



Assault Rifles

Bal-27
Obsidian Steed (Damage +2, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Inferno (Handling +2, Fire Rate +1, Mobility -3)
Marksman (Integrated ACOG Scope, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
.308 (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
SPR (Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity +3 rounds, Fire Rate -2)
Tactical (Range +1, Handling -1)
Assaulter (Mobility +1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Carbon (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Virtue (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
223 [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
AE (Atlas-style camo)

AK-12
Finger Trap (Handling +3, No Attachments Allowed, Ghosts style iron sights)
R.I.P. (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Magazine Capacity -8 rounds, Mobility -1)
Lance (Range +2, Handling -1, can only use optical attachments)
Feeder (Magazine Capacity +3 rounds, Reserve Magazines +1, Handling -2)
Bleeder (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Grenadier (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Handling +1, Ghosts style rear iron sight, alternate front sight)
Competition (Handling +1, Magazine Capacity -1)
Fluted (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Hair Trigger (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Wrecker [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Accuracy -2, Ghosts style iron sights)
G [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus]

ARX-160
Steel Bite (Damage +3, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1)
Damnation (Accuracy +2, Range +1, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Hole Puncher (Damage +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Head Shot (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)
Red Eye Coyote (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Tactical (Range +1, Handling -1)
Superlite (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Adapter (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Heavy Barrel (Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Spoliator [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)

HBRa3
Insanity (Fire Rate +2, Damage +1, Handling -1, no optical attachments) - OMG, the only weapon with Dmg+RoF buff and balanced using stupid irons!
Bear Fist (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Handling +2, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Cowboy (Integrated Dual Mags, Accuracy -1)
Raider (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Superlite (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Competition (Range +1, Damage -1)
Adapter (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Sport (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Average Joe [Marksman (300 kills)] (Damage +1, Range +1, Handling -2)
Lead Launcher [Maxing out Weapon Proficiency in Exo Survival] (Accuracy +1, Handling +1, Fire Rate -2)

IMR
Thunder Tusk (Accuracy +3, Handling -1, Magazine Capacity -8 rounds)
Boar Strike (Range +2, Damage +1, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1)
Heart Breaker (Integrated Parabolic Microphone, Damage -1)
Hushed (Integrated Suppressor, Handling -1)
Pillager (Integrated Laser Sight, Range -1)
Impact (Damage +1, Range -1)
Hunter (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Defense (Handling +1, Mobility -1)
Lightweight (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Feedback [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Range -1)

MK14
Eagle Eye (Integrated Quickdraw Grip, Range +2, Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity -1, most attachments are not allowed)
Eclipse (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -2)
Desecrator (Fire Rate +2, Mobility -2)
Ultralite (Handling +2, Range -2)
Obituary (Integrated Target Enhancer, Range -1)
Hardtip (Damage +1, Handling -1)
Signature (Fire Rate +1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Deluxe (Magazine Capacity +1, Fire Rate -1)
Sport (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Sheriff [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +2, Handling -2)


Submachine Guns

KF5
Breakneck (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1; can't use rapid fire, extended mags, dual mags, stock, or quickdraw grip)
Spanner (Range +3, Fire Rate -2, Handling -1)
Genuine (Accuracy +1, Damage +1, Range -1, no optical attachments)
Endless (Range +1, Mobility +1, Magazine Capacity -10 rounds)
Locomotive (Mobility +2, Fire Rate -1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Scout (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Single Stack (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Sporter (Range +1, Handling -1)
Savior (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Marxman [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)

MP11
Goliath (Damage +3, Handling -3)
Squeaker (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -2)
Savior (Integrated Laser Sight, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Toxic (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Plunderer (Mobility +2, Accuracy -2)
Airborne (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Scout (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Deceiver (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Express (Range +1, Damage -1)
Devourer [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)

ASM1
Strider (Range +2, Damage +1, Accuracy -3)
Speakeasy (Integrated Extended Mags, Fire Rate +2, Damage -1, Range -1)
Competence (Damage +1, Handling +1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Rigor (Accuracy +2, Handling -2)
Reckless (Integrated Rapid Fire, Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Sweeper (Damage +1, Range -1)
Reliable (Accuracy +1, Range -1)
Scout (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Extended (Range +1, Damage -1)
Magnitude [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Handling -1, Mobility -1)

SN6
Money (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Reserve Magazines +1, Handling -1, Mobility -2)
The Third (Range +2, Damage +1, Mobility -3)
Executioner (Damage +1, Handling +1, Range -2)
Jury (Integrated Laser Sight, Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
K (Integrated Foregrip, Fire Rate +1, Damage -2)
Hammer (Damage +1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
C-Mas (Mobility +1, Accuracy -1)
Precision (Range +1, Mobility -1)
Cycled (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Magistrate [Marksman (300 kills)] (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Mobility -1)

SAC3
Pain & Suffering (Accuracy +3, Damage -2, Range -1)
Blood & Glory (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -2)
Fire & Brimstone (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Crime and Punishment (Accuracy +1, Handling +1, Fire Rate -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Misery & Company (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Handling -1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
Sporter (Range +1, Handling -1) (White Base Camo)
S (Accuracy +1, Magazine Capacity -4 rounds)
JK (Damage +1, Range -1)
Rapid (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Thunder & Lightning [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Damage -1)

AMR9
Pro Pipe (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)
Dynamo (Fire Rate +2, Mobility +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Banger (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Handling +1, Range -1)
Skill Cannon (Integrated Grenade Launcher, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Hipshot (Fire Rate +1, Mobility +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Express (Range +1, Damage -1)
Featherweight (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Paratrooper (Mobility +1, Handling -1)
Shorty (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Outlaw [Marksman (300 kills)] (Range +2, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)


Sniper Rifles

Lynx
Kingpin (Integrated Parabolic Microphone, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)
Tack-Driver (Accuracy +3, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Combatant (Handling +2, Accuracy -2)
Quarterback (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Flared (Handling +1, Ammo -1)
Slung (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Improved Action (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
13 Twist (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Variable (Integrated Variable Zoom Scope, Accuracy -2)
Snake Oil [Marksman (300 kills)]: (Handling +2, Fire Rate -1, Mobility -1)

MORS
Silver Bullet (Damage +2, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -2, Handling -1)
The Doctor (Fire Rate +2, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Mobility -1)
Ransacker (Damage +1, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1, Mobility -1)
Penetrator (Damage +1, Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1)
Tumbler (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Long Rifle (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Quick Bolt (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Slung (Mobility +1, Fire Rate -1)
Lullaby (Integrated Ballistic CPU, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Pummeler [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)

NA-45
Screamin' (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1, Handling -2)
Ravager (Damage +3, Fire Rate -3)
Hurried (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Exact (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -2)
Rover (Mobility +2, Damage -2)
HE (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
M (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Sharpshooter (Mobility +1, Handling -1)
Agile (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
Feint [Marksman (300 kills)] ()

Atlas 20mm
Virtuosity (Handling +3; Damage -3)
Snapper (Fire Rate +2; Magazine Capacity +1; Accuracy -3)
Presto (Fire Rate +2; Magazine Capacity -1; Reserve Magazines -1)
Carnage (Damage +1; Accuracy +1; Magazine Capacity -1)
Hypersonic (Fire Rate +2; Handling -2)
Interrupt (Accuracy +1; Mobility -1)
Skilled (Handling +1; Accuracy -1)
13 Twist (Accuracy +1; Fire Rate -1)
Improved Action (Magazine Capacity +1; Handling -1)
Talent [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +1; Mobility +1; Accuracy -1; Fire Rate -1)


Shotguns


Tac-19
Bang Stick (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Mobility +1, Range -2, Accuracy -1)
Sledgehammer (Accuracy +2, Magazine Capacity +1, Handling -1, Mobility -1)
Round House (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Mobility -1)
Haymaker (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Upper Cut (Damage +1, Accuracy +1, Range -1, Mobility -1) (Yellow Base Camo)
Barricade (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Breacher (Damage +1, Range -1)
Runner (Mobility +1, Damage -1) (White/Grey Base Camo)
Lite Trigger (Fire Rate +1, Mobility -1)
Jab [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +1, Mobility +1, Magazine Capacity -1, Range -1)

S-12
Whirlwind (Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity +2, Accuracy -2, Handling -1)
Tiger Blood (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -2, Damage -1)
Galant (Reserve Magazines +2, Handling -2)
Quiet Time (Integrated Suppressor, Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Varmint (Range +1, Damage -1)
Compliant (Magazine Capacity +2, Handling -1)
N (Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
U (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Adroit [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Handling +1, Damage -1, Mobility -1)
Precision (Range +1, Mobility -1)
Vengeance (Integrated Foregrip, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)

Bulldoge
Mancy (Integrated Target Enhancer, Accuracy +1)
Face Hammer (Accuracy +2, Damage +1, Handling -1, no optical attachments)
Carnage (Accuracy +2, Damage -1, Fire Rate -1)
Diplomacy (Integrated Foregrip, Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Berzerker (Damage +1, Handling +1, Magazine Capacity -2, Reserve Magazines -1)
Grip Taped (Handling +1, Mobility -1)
Rifled (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Quick Barrel (Handling +1, Damage -1)
Breacher (Damage +1, Range -1)
Man-o-War [Marksman (300 kills)] (Handling +2, Damage -2)

Heavy Weapons

EM1
Pwner (Damage +2, Mobility +1, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Handling -1) (Purple Beam)
Polar Vortex (Handling +2, Fire Rate +1, Mobility -3) (Green Beam)
The End (Range +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1) (Yellow Beam)
Sweet Dreams (Integrated Sight, Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1) (Yellow Beam)
The Last Laugh (Accuracy +2, Fire Rate -2) (Yellow Beam)
M-Coil (Accuracy +1, Damage -1) (Blue Beam)
Magnified (Range +1, Handling -1) (Blue Beam)
LEL (Damage +1, Accuracy -1) (Blue Beam)
Dimension (Mobility +1) (Blue Beam)
Vera [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2) (Yellow Beam)
Quantum [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus] (Red Beam)

Pytaek
Loophole (Magazine Capacity +50 bullets, Accuracy +1, Handling -3)
Exploit (Range +3, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1, Magazine Capacity -1)
Expanse (Range +2, Fire Rate -2)
Methodic (Accuracy +2, Damage -1, Range -1)
Savvy (Integrated ACOG Scope, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Adept (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
LR (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Magnified (Range +1, Handling -1)
Eradicator (Damage +1, Range -1)
Hasty [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +1, Ammo Capacity +1, Accuracy -2)

XMG
Bacon & Eggs (Damage +3, Accuracy -3)
Bread & Butter (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Smoke & Mirrors (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Beer & Pretzels (Range +2, Magazine Capacity -1, Reserve Magazines -1)
Death & Taxes (Integrated Laser Sight, Fire Rate +1, Range -2)
Venus & Mars (Damage +1, Range -1)
Yin & Yang (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Meat and Potatoes (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Black & White (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Chicken and Waffles [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)

EPM3
Parsec (Range +3, can't use certain attachments)
Bona Fide (Accuracy +3, Damage -2, Fire Rate -1)
Panorama (Integrated Heat Sink, Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Legit (Accuracy +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Longitude (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Anodized (Accuracy +1, Fire Rate -1)
Interval (Range +1, Damage -1)
Magnified (Range +1, Handling -1)
M-Coil (Accuracy +1, Damage -1)
Exterminator [Marksman (300 kills)] (Damage +2, Fire Rate -2)

Ameli
Whale Horn (Handling +2, Magazine Capacity +50 bullets, Damage -2, Accuracy -1)
Chicanery (Integrated Advanced Rifling, Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity -50 bullets)
Spacer (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Handling -1, Accuracy -1)
Subverter (Damage +2, Magazine Capacity -50 bullets)
Crafty (Integrated Foregrip, Handling +1, Damage -1)
Magnified (Range +1, Handling -1)
Accelerated (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Swift (Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Heavy (Damage +1, Handling -1)
Redshirt [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Damage -1, Accuracy -1)


Pistols

Atlas 45
Oath Breaker (Integrated Target Enhancer, Handling +2, Accuracy -1, Fire Rate -1)
Huckleberry (Handling +3, Accuracy -2, Damage -1)
Flogger (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
Cudgel (Integrated Laser Sight, Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
Woo (Integrated Akimbo, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1, Magazine Capacity -1, no optical attachments)
Ranger (Range +1, Damage -1)
A1 (Handling +1, Fire Rate -1)
A2 (Handling +1, Range -1)
A3 (Handling +1, Damage -1)
Interrupt [Marksman (300 kills)] ()
AE [Obtained through Atlas Limited Edition or Pro Edition only] (Atlas-style camo)

RW1
Rail Driver (Damage +3, Accuracy -3)
Holiday (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +2, Accuracy -1)
Guardian (Integrated Scope, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Radiance (Integrated Target Enhancer, Handling +1, Damage -1)
Xeno (Damage +2, Range -1, Handling -1)
Tempest (Damage +1, Accuracy -1)
Typhoon (Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Spectrum (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Prototype (Damage +1, Range -1)
Spitfire [Marksman (300 kills)]

MP-443 Grach
One Wood (Range +3, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Handling -1)
Feeling Lucky (Integrated ACOG Scope, Range +2, Damage -1, Handling -1)
Sighted (Integrated Laser Sight, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Snappy (Integrated Akimbo, Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
H1 (Integrated Attachment, Handling +1, Accuracy -1)
Compass (Range +1, Damage -1)
Dimension (Range +1, Handling -1)
Spectrum (Range +1, Fire Rate -1)
Latitude (Range +1, Accuracy -1)
Hasty [Marksman (300 kills)] ()

PDW
Crusher (Fire Rate +2, Magazine Capacity +1, Damage -2, Handling -1)
Chucker (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1, Accuracy -1, Range -1)
Chop-Chop (Fire Rate +1, Range +1, Damage -2)
Dead Eye (Integrated Red Dot Sight, Accuracy +1, Handling -1)
Ion (Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
CQB (Fire Rate +1, Accuracy -1)
Sub Cal (Fire Rate +1, Damage -1)
Compact (Fire Rate +1, Handling -1)
Rage (Integrated ACOG Scope, Fire Rate +1, Range -1)
Condensed [Marksman (300 kills)] (Fire Rate +2, Handling -2)


Launchers

Stinger M7
Firehawk [Elite]
Nighthawk [Elite]
Seeker
Warden [from Marksman challenge]

MAAWS
Oppressor [Elite]
Ignition [Elite]
Tornado
Thunder [from Marksman challenge]

MAHEM
Fused [Elite]
Bull [Elite]
Malice
Flak [from Marksman challenge]


Specials

Heavy Shield
Salvation (Gold and Silver color scheme)
Nugget (Reddish color scheme)
Disruptor (Light Grey/Whitish color scheme)
Catalyst [Marksman (300 kills)] (Red/Turquoise/Yellowish color scheme)

MDL
Backdraft [Elite]
Shockwave [Elite]
Proper
Wildfire [Marksman (300 kills)]

Crossbow
Righteous [Elite]
Conqueror [Elite]
Frosty
B2 [Advanced Arsenal pre-order/Season Pass bonus]

[ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42)]

Nov 21, 2014 13:04:09 GMT -5 cashmoves said:

Nov 21, 2014 12:32:40 GMT -5 banana said:

Since I don't have the game yet (my mom wants me to be a Christmas noob, but I am also getting the ps4 with it so that's cool) I want to know if

2. If damage affects snipers or rather the mors because I don't care about the others lol, a lot?

3. Does fire rate affect the mors?

4. Does accuracy affect sniper sway?

P.S. I'm 17

get a Foxtroting JOB!

just kidding, jobs suck.

i second the young gentleman's (gentlewoman's?) questions. i would assume damage on sniper rifles is pointless because multipliers etc remain the same...

Usually damage on Sniper rifles relates to multipliers, and not damage. Usually snipers come in two flavors. 70 damage or 98 damage, and usually with 1, 1.1, and 1.5 multipliers.
So take the Ballista and DSR from BO2, they both did 98 damage but the bar showed higher damage on the DSR because it had more OHK multiplier areas.
So if a MORS variant has + damage it'll probably add a multiplier somewhere. Can't test this however because I don't have one

[cashmoves]

Nov 21, 2014 14:41:54 GMT -5 ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) said:

Nov 21, 2014 13:04:09 GMT -5 cashmoves said:

get a Foxtroting JOB!

just kidding, jobs suck.

i second the young gentleman's (gentlewoman's?) questions. i would assume damage on sniper rifles is pointless because multipliers etc remain the same...

Usually damage on Sniper rifles relates to multipliers, and not damage. Usually snipers come in two flavors. 70 damage or 98 damage, and usually with 1, 1.1, and 1.5 multipliers.
So take the Ballista and DSR from BO2, they both did 98 damage but the bar showed higher damage on the DSR because it had more OHK multiplier areas.
So if a MORS variant has + damage it'll probably add a multiplier somewhere. Can't test this however because I don't have one

and thats exactly the issue. i can see the developers making a 70 damage sniper rifle 75... which would do nothing given the normal multipliers. its not going to turn a 2 hit kill area into a OHK... I suppose the only thing it could possibly change was damage through objects, and I dont know/cant remember how AW or any other COD treats damage decreases through objects (or how Hard Impact or FMJ actually affected things for that matter).

so i guess my implied point was that i would not be surprised, given CODs consistent love of screwing and nerfing sniper rifles, that these damage increases literally increase the damage by a couple points which, effectively, does nothing.

now, if these damage increases actually convert upper arm/lower torso two hit kill areas into OHK areas, for example, that would be pretty cooool.

[ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42)]

Nov 21, 2014 14:50:12 GMT -5 cashmoves said:

Nov 21, 2014 14:41:54 GMT -5 ChloeB42 (Alexcalibur42) said:

Usually damage on Sniper rifles relates to multipliers, and not damage. Usually snipers come in two flavors. 70 damage or 98 damage, and usually with 1, 1.1, and 1.5 multipliers.
So take the Ballista and DSR from BO2, they both did 98 damage but the bar showed higher damage on the DSR because it had more OHK multiplier areas.
So if a MORS variant has + damage it'll probably add a multiplier somewhere. Can't test this however because I don't have one

and thats exactly the issue. i can see the developers making a 70 damage sniper rifle 75... which would do nothing given the normal multipliers. its not going to turn a 2 hit kill area into a OHK... I suppose the only thing it could possibly change was damage through objects, and I dont know/cant remember how AW or any other COD treats damage decreases through objects (or how Hard Impact or FMJ actually affected things for that matter).

so i guess my implied point was that i would not be surprised, given CODs consistent love of screwing and nerfing sniper rifles, that these damage increases literally increase the damage by a couple points which, effectively, does nothing.

now, if these damage increases actually convert upper arm/lower torso two hit kill areas into OHK areas, for example, that would be pretty cooool.

From various people's testing only one gun has 70 damage, I doubt they wouldn't just mess with multipliers because that's what they've always done before. Then again they've proven that they're not afraid to do stupid things with other guns.

As for penetration, it's complicated, there's threads talking about it.

[Will]

Hey wwa that is a good idea - draw attention to damage and fire rate, which seem to be the only two "stats" that matter. I will edit in your changes later tonight, thanks for that!

[-3055-]

WWA you should've highlighted range instead of firerate for shotguns. Way more important.

[Will]

Nov 21, 2014 16:51:35 GMT -5 -3055- said:

WWA you should've highlighted range instead of firerate for shotguns. Way more important.

I thought Driftor showed that a point in range adds less than a meter before dropoff, on Assault Rifles?

Someone should test what it does to shotguns

[wwaa]

Nov 21, 2014 16:51:35 GMT -5 -3055- said:

WWA you should've highlighted range instead of firerate for shotguns. Way more important.

ahh, it was automatic replace in Word, correct, changed.

[mrbone2u]

It would be nice to trade elites for other elites. I have an elite sniper rifle that i know i will never use but i would sell a kidney for the arx steel bite. Tired of the rng shit with the supply drops. "hey here's your elite knee pads, just what you wanted right?"

[dunsparceflinch]

Is it possible that the variations do different things depending on the weapon class?

I'm only asking because I see no other reason for +3 handling on the Atlas 20mm.

[Megaqwerty]

WTB Obsidian Steed PST

[sixone]

Anyone have a MORS variant with a Damage boost (Silver Bullet, etc.)? I'm curious if any of the variants are a OHK to anything other than the torso and head like the vanilla version.

[sixone]

Just unlocked the MORS Penetrator. Same damage profile as vanilla.

[Will]

Nov 21, 2014 18:15:36 GMT -5 dunsparceflinch said:

Is it possible that the variations do different things depending on the weapon class?

I'm only asking because I see no other reason for +3 handling on the Atlas 20mm.

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: It might not be locked by class, it could very well be different for each individual weapon. And from everything tested so far, it seems that variations of the "mobility" stat will ONLY effect ADS time, and never run speed. Run speed is locked by weapon class, like other CODs. The MP11 has a higher "Mobility" because it has a faster ADS time.

Each of the "stats", like in other COD games, is a combination of multiple variables. So an extra point in any of those stats could be a change in any one or more of the variables. Here are the best guesses so far for what each of the fake "stats" is a combination of:

"Damage" variables:
- maximum damage
- minimum damage
- bullet penetration
- distance of first damage dropoff

"Accuracy" variables:
- vertical recoil
- horizontal recoil left
- horizontal recoil right
- centerspeed
- hipfire spread (standing still)
- ADS spread (shotguns only)

"Fire Rate" variables:
- maximum rate of fire
- minimum rate of fire

"Range" variables:
- distance of first damage dropoff
- distance of second damage dropoff (some weapons only)
- distance of shotgun pellets disappearing

"Handling" variables:
- reload speed
- empty reload speed
- weapon raise time
- weapon drop time
- hipfire spread (moving)

"Mobility" variables:
- run speed
- sprint speed
- boost speed
- ADS time
- weapon ready out of sprint time
- empty reload speed


I really wish they'd stop doing this shit and just show us Den/Symthic-style damage charts in-game.

[dunsparceflinch]

In that case I am almost certain that the accuracy variation affects ADS spread on shotguns, because I can't think of any other reason that the sledgehammer Tac-19 variant seems to get more 2HKs and 1HKs ADS compared to other Tac 19s that tend to get double hit markers and ADS blanks.

[banana]

Nov 21, 2014 20:59:18 GMT -5 sixone said:

Just unlocked the MORS Penetrator. Same damage profile as vanilla.

What about the fire rate difference?

[Will]

Added spoiler boxes around each weapon class to save your page down button some wear and tear. Also added a quicklink to wwa's list right up top.

[Ironforce92]

Low handling also makes a slightly worst hipfire spread on the Goliath MP11.