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Post by zimpoo on Nov 29, 2014 8:26:08 GMT -5
Oh so that's the list that Tmartn used in his video.
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Post by Will on Nov 29, 2014 20:48:38 GMT -5
What's shocking is that his reference to this list shows that TmarTn is aware of these forums.
If that is the case, then why the heck does he continue to spout out blatantly incorrect information in every single video?
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Post by n1gh7 on Nov 29, 2014 23:29:13 GMT -5
Because his "thing" doesn't require correct information to get tons of views.
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Post by wwaa on Dec 2, 2014 17:18:43 GMT -5
PC, 91fps:
* ASM1 - standard:
strange gun, ROF slowly decreases ... I 'd bet: 4 rounds at fixed ROF and then 5th round 0.005sec delayed (but with lower recoil?), so avg firetime of 5 rds goes from 0.07 to 0.071 ...
3 rounds: 0.140 s , firetime: 0.0700 , 857 rpm
4 rounds: 0.210 s , firetime: 0.0700 , 857 rpm
5 rounds: 0.285 s , firetime: 0.0713 , 842 rpm
6 rounds: 0.360 s , firetime: 0.0720 , 833 rpm
7 rounds: 0.440 s , firetime: 0.0733 , 818 rpm
8 rounds: 0.520 s , firetime: 0.0743 , 808 rpm
9 rounds: 0.600 s , firetime: 0.0750 , 800 rpm
45 rounds: 3.760 s , firetime: 0.0855 , 702 rpm
* ASM1 - Reckless (+1 ROF) + Rapid Fire. Acceleration starts with 5th round.
3 rounds: 0.140 s , firetime: 0.0700 , 857 rpm
4 rounds: 0.210 s , firetime: 0.0700 , 857 rpm
5 rounds: 0.275 s , firetime: 0.0688 , 873 rpm
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45 rounds: 2.750 s , firetime: 0.0625 , 960 rpm
Reckless is + 1 ROF and Rapid Fire, do I understand ingame info correctly?
It is not just Rapid Fire added and marked as +1 I suppose.
Both effects give total +37% buff (960/702). First 4 rounds fired the same way.
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Post by sixone on Dec 4, 2014 6:18:48 GMT -5
In the variant list ASM1 Sweeper should be Damage +1, Fire Rate -1.
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Post by cashmoves on Dec 4, 2014 10:39:40 GMT -5
Steel Bite [Elite] (Damage +3, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1)
any idea whether this is a 3hk (one burst kill at max damage, 34+ damage)? i know ive landed all 3 for a kill before, but ive also been at melee distance and not got a kill from one burst... not sure whether other one burst kills had damages enemies or not. if this variant has one burst kill then its one of the better M-16 type weapons in this series. very fast ttk (seemingly, 20 damage at long range? 25 damage at long range?) at long ranges, which makes sniper rifles even more unnecessary than they already are.
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Post by mrbone2u on Dec 4, 2014 12:12:34 GMT -5
Steel Bite [Elite] (Damage +3, Accuracy -2, Fire Rate -1) any idea whether this is a 3hk (one burst kill at max damage, 34+ damage)? i know ive landed all 3 for a kill before, but ive also been at melee distance and not got a kill from one burst... not sure whether other one burst kills had damages enemies or not. if this variant has one burst kill then its one of the better M-16 type weapons in this series. very fast ttk (seemingly, 20 damage at long range? 25 damage at long range?) at long ranges, which makes sniper rifles even more unnecessary than they already are. welcome to call of duty where you can 3 shot people across the map but point blank you get hitmarkers |
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Post by scarpaccidawaco on Dec 11, 2014 21:07:36 GMT -5
Add Ae4 and the Ae4 Widowmaker
Widowmaker +1 accuracy -1 fire rate
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Assault rifles
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Post by banana on Dec 11, 2014 23:15:45 GMT -5
The widowmaker looks like crap
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Post by Will on Dec 12, 2014 0:01:35 GMT -5
Yup.
What could be dangerous is a AE4 variant with +damage. If it increases that minimum damage from 30 to 34 - kaboom we have 3 SHK at all ranges. Any +firerate variants would probably be a great choice too. We'll have to see what they add - if they plan on adding DLC variants at all, that is.
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Post by sixone on Dec 12, 2014 8:34:12 GMT -5
Yeah, once you factor in the variants 99% of the guns become pointless imo.
Why would I want a 450 rpm 3-4HK AE4 when the AK12 RIP is a 4HK at all ranges @ 720 rpm and little recoil? The only thing the AE4 would have is the 3HK range, but at the rpm is that really competitive ?
At mid range the Obsidian Steed is still a 3HK >30m even after the "nerf". Why would I use anything else at mid range?
The ASM1 Competence (I don't have many variants) is a 3-5HK, has an actual 3HK range post-patch, and can fire @ 1200 rpm for the first 8 shots with Rapid Fire. The SAC3 is good, but the TTK is too inconsistent in my experience. The KF5 is OK (don't have the best variants yet) but you have to constantly reload to take advantage of the weapon. The MP11 Goliath is good and my most kills/highest K/D weapon., but the 4HK @ 900 rpm doesn't stack up against the ASM1 anymore.
So while I like playing around with the ACOG/Iron Sights MORS from time to time, and I just started trying to level up the Tac-19, I don't see how any of the other weapons compete with the above 3.
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Post by Marvel4 on Dec 20, 2014 2:38:43 GMT -5
All AE4 variant names:
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Post by TheHawkNY on Dec 24, 2014 13:07:08 GMT -5
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Post by Will on Dec 24, 2014 14:20:10 GMT -5
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Post by Usagi on Dec 24, 2014 15:55:58 GMT -5
Does handling mean anything different on sniper rifles? It better, because I just got the Atlas Virtuosity.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 24, 2014 22:23:22 GMT -5
handling affects sprintout time on snipers and shotguns.
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 25, 2014 2:59:49 GMT -5
handling affects sprintout time on snipers and shotguns. source? |
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Post by wwaa on Dec 25, 2014 6:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 26, 2014 6:00:12 GMT -5
Accuracy stat on snipers increas (or Decreas) the idel sway speed
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Post by Will on Dec 26, 2014 9:53:58 GMT -5
Found leaks of some of the AE4 variants, added to the main post:    The Shocker looks decent for core gamemodes, as long as the long range damage does not drop below 25 (keeping it a 4HK), and provided that Fire Rate actually increase RoF and not just the overheat time. All three look useless in HC vs the default. We need something with +Fire Rate and -Handling/Range/Mobility. Actually, I'd prefer they didn't, because that would unbalance the game in HC. The default AE4 is already well balanced in HC. Nevermind. |
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Post by Will on Dec 26, 2014 10:12:35 GMT -5
Added missing information on Marksman variants of:
- NA-45
- Atlas 45
- MP-443 Grach
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Post by ThatGuy on Dec 26, 2014 11:33:06 GMT -5
They look really cool
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Post by Marvel4 on Dec 26, 2014 12:20:32 GMT -5
and provided that Fire Rate actually increase RoF and not just the overheat time. Nope, they all have the same rate of fire. |
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Post by Will on Dec 26, 2014 12:35:40 GMT -5
and provided that Fire Rate actually increase RoF and not just the overheat time. Nope, they all have the same rate of fire. Oh darn, alright then. Drift0r's initial review said his testing showed the Widowmaker dropped the RoF from 450 to 420. I guess that was an ass pull. Come to think of it, at 60 FPS how would he ever get 420 RPM as a measurement? Doesn't the rounding jump it from 450 to 400? |
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Post by thegentleman on Dec 26, 2014 15:51:18 GMT -5
What bothers me about a lot of the variants are how the devs put a damage increase on a gun but balance it out with a range decrease (or vice verse). Especially with the range and damage figures being such a mysterious component of all of the variants, how can a person possibly know whether the Gigawatt above is going to being doing more damage or less damage at a particular distance?
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Post by Will on Dec 26, 2014 15:53:33 GMT -5
What bothers me about a lot of the variants are how the devs put a damage increase on a gun but balance it out with a range decrease (or vice verse). Especially with the range and damage figures being such a mysterious component of all of the variants, how can a person possibly know whether the Gigawatt above is going to being doing more damage or less damage at a particular distance? I use weapons based on the sex appeal of their skins. Elite variants win out every time. Dat bling |
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 26, 2014 16:44:37 GMT -5
and provided that Fire Rate actually increase RoF and not just the overheat time. Nope, they all have the same rate of fire. So the whole point of the shocker is to be able to spam it more like an AR then.... |
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Post by scarpaccidawaco on Dec 30, 2014 20:58:32 GMT -5
how did you find those ae4s
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 30, 2014 21:08:25 GMT -5
Is it just me or is the Shocker totes a Hyperion gun from BronyMemesLand(Borderlands)?
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Post by ardheim on Dec 31, 2014 10:28:28 GMT -5
The AK12 Hair Trigger variant also has the open iron sights from CoDGhosts.
Makes it one of the best AK variants imo, since you lose one handling for higher firerate and ghost sights.
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