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Post by tobysi on Jul 29, 2016 10:31:17 GMT -5
Thanks marvel! Interesting they buffed the mx garand fire rate slightly. And cutting the kuda 3hk in half? I barely ever got 3hk with the Kuda before anyways don't see why it needed a nerf. Oh well glad they didn't go too crazy with the nerfs.
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Post by lustindarkness on Jul 29, 2016 11:48:11 GMT -5
Thank you Marvel.
I guess I can use the FFAR again and get Dark matter on it. A little grind might get me motivated to play more than two or three matches a night.
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Post by tobysi on Jul 29, 2016 12:26:54 GMT -5
Thank you Marvel. I guess I can use the FFAR again and get Dark matter on it. A little grind might get me motivated to play more than two or three matches a night. I was using the ffar last night and it seems much more consistent |
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Post by thewhitetestament on Jul 29, 2016 13:49:09 GMT -5
Man-O-War: Reload time increased by 21.08% Man-O-War: Reload empty time increased by 17.24% Man-O-War: Reload quick time increased by 33% Man-O-War: Reload quick empty time increased by 32.81% Man-O-War: ADS time increased by 16.67% Man-O-War: Reload add time increased by 18.92% Man-O-War: Reload quick add time increased by 100% MX Garand: Reload empty time decreased by 9.52% MX Garand: Centerspeed increased by 15.38% MX Garand: Fire time decreased by 2.63% MX Garand: Hipspread standing maximum decreased by 9.09% MX Garand: Hipspread crouching maximum decreased by 33.33% MX Garand: Hipspread prone maximum decreased by 25% FFAR: ADS time decreased by 16.67% FFAR: Hipspread standing maximum decreased by 12.5% FFAR: Viewkick pitch maximum decreased by 4.76% FFAR: Viewkick yaw maximum decreased by 4.76% Kuda: 3HK range decreased by 50% Kuda: 5HK range decreased by 25% VMP: Viewkick pitch minimum decreased by 33.33% VMP: Viewkick pitch maximum increased by 3.33% VMP: Viewkick minimum magnitude increased by 22.73% VMP: Viewkick yaw minimum increased by 3.33% VMP: Viewkick yaw maximum increased by 16.67% Vesper: Viewkick pitch maximum decreased by 4.62% Vesper: Viewkick yaw decreased by 11.43% HG 40: 3HK range increased by 19.51% Locus: Lower torso multiplier increased by 100% RSA Interdiction: Mid torso, upper arm, lower arm and hand multipliers increased by 50% Sparrow: Fire time decreased by 10% Sparrow: Charge shot maximum time decreased by 12.5% Sparrow: Charge shot minimum time decreased by 66.67% Hmm... nothing in regard to the Tempest? I swear they said they "reduced the beam width" or something similar. |
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Post by Marvel4 on Jul 30, 2016 1:27:32 GMT -5
Something like that didn't exist in previous games, so I have no idea how it works.
By the way, please don't quote my posts. If I forgot something or notice a mistake and edit the original, it will not show up in the quote.
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Post by Usagi on Jul 30, 2016 1:35:57 GMT -5
it should just be a ray with a value for the radius but i have no idea
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Post by haoz on Jul 30, 2016 1:57:49 GMT -5
Was the M8 changed at all?
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Post by UrbaneVirtuoso on Jul 30, 2016 2:30:58 GMT -5
Oh wow, it's like they wanted the Man-O-War to be more useless than it already is!
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Post by PSIII on Aug 17, 2016 11:24:25 GMT -5
Looks like they patched the Vesper again. Remember the days of nerfs being done in Q1 or Q2? I miss those days.
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Post by banana on Aug 17, 2016 13:49:45 GMT -5
they're just trying to get everything balanced
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Post by PSIII on Aug 17, 2016 15:33:12 GMT -5
No they're not. Treyarch doesn't know balance if it rubbed its balls on their faces. They're only making stupid reaction patches to those who cry too much or the YouTube guys. A gun shouldn't have to be patched three or four times. Shit should be done by around the start of summer, at least for nerfs. After that, they can look at rebalancing and buff what's needed. This back and forth nonsense makes them look retarded. Just like when the Bizon was buffed, then reversed right away back in Ghosts.
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Post by banana on Aug 18, 2016 0:34:55 GMT -5
They balance with kd targets. They don't care about what our toxic community says. That's why we have strong af shotguns right now. No previous game was like this
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Post by Disgruntled Jigglypuff on Aug 18, 2016 2:01:00 GMT -5
These shotguns suck.
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Post by livingonluck on Aug 18, 2016 7:47:57 GMT -5
No they're not. Treyarch doesn't know balance if it rubbed its balls on their faces. They're only making stupid reaction patches to those who cry too much or the YouTube guys. A gun shouldn't have to be patched three or four times. Shit should be done by around the start of summer, at least for nerfs. After that, they can look at rebalancing and buff what's needed. This back and forth nonsense makes them look retarded. Just like when the Bizon was buffed, then reversed right away back in Ghosts. The amount of buffs/nerfs have nothing to do with if a game is overall balanced. 1) Vesper had to be dealt with. It's the only glaring "OP" gun that was in the game. So OP that at the last MLG tournament - they agreed not to use it. They did this to prevent that tournament from being everyone running around with Vesper (or everyone having to spend a ban on the Vesper). The result? I saw about 8-10 different guns being used. Which is basically unheard of for pro level tournaments. Vesper was the problem child; and it was dealt with accordingly. 2) I don't know one FPS where the majority think the game is properly balanced. It's not an easy thing to do; and it gets worse when everyone has an opinion on gun balance (and are entitled enough to think their opinion should be the most important one.) The closest game I've ever played to a perfectly balances FPS is BO2 after all the buffs/nerfs/patches were finished. You could pick up any gun in any class of weapons and slay with it. Imo, BO3 is getting very close to BO2 territory. It's even getting to the point where picking a best gun in each class is getting hard because the guns serve different roles (evidence of this is once again MLG Orlando where over half the SMGs (all but the Weevil and Vesper) and over half the ARs were used). Gun selection changed based on map, game mode, and player role.... That's a very healthy FPS when no gun is a clear cut best anymore. |
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Post by haoz on Aug 18, 2016 11:34:10 GMT -5
some people here have an unhealthy love for shotguns
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Post by banana on Aug 18, 2016 12:06:20 GMT -5
it's much easier when you stop listening to the community tbh
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Post by livingonluck on Aug 18, 2016 12:21:11 GMT -5
Rate of Fire
Drastic dropoffs to Damage over Distance (something pretty unique to gun balance vs. non-COD titles)
Recoil
Other lesser things like movement speed
I feel these things definitely matter in a decent enough amount of situations to be worthy of studying the gun stats.
But strategy, experience, and ability do outclass the actual weapon you're using (I'm assuming this is the point you're making). Just not all the time.
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Post by haoz on Aug 21, 2016 13:19:07 GMT -5
im just remarking on how it took them nearly a decade to balance a set of guns that work almost exactly the same across the board in reality if a gun manages to outclass another that has slightly different fire rate or recoil, it doesnt matter because the gameplay with either will be virtually identical. youre losing nothing but a viewmodel. Well they have to change it up with each version. Hit detection, netcode, and now even firerates change with each game. |
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Post by Marvel4 on Aug 22, 2016 12:14:00 GMT -5
Vesper: Viewkick pitch maximum increased by 4.84%
Vesper: Viewkick yaw increased by 9.68%
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Post by PSIII on Aug 22, 2016 15:40:32 GMT -5
So the pitch is now higher than what it was before the reductions?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Aug 22, 2016 19:08:41 GMT -5
No, it was 65 before the buff.
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Post by banana on Aug 24, 2016 14:22:34 GMT -5
Overall recoil is somewhere in between the two patches right?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Aug 24, 2016 14:34:46 GMT -5
Overall recoil is somewhere in between the two patches right? Yes, it's still better than before it was buffed. Yaw used to be +/-70. |
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Post by tobysi on Sept 29, 2016 23:46:50 GMT -5
Did 3arc nerf the ktm 262 range recently? Or am I just losing my mind? It feels terrible at the moment.
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Post by Usagi on Sept 30, 2016 0:42:02 GMT -5
That's their secret, Captain. It was always terrible.
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Post by kylet357 on Sept 30, 2016 18:02:57 GMT -5
That's their secret, Captain. It was always terrible.  |
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Post by Usagi on Oct 2, 2016 19:38:11 GMT -5
the ajax is pretty fun btw
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Post by tobysi on Oct 3, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -5
Haha alright then
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