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Post by iw5000 on Sept 27, 2017 9:40:31 GMT -5
At what point will the game be broken in two, and in the trash? Asking for a friend. I don't know if I can answer that. I'm trying to play it moderately, not get to addicted (which can be an issue for me) and I'm not bored yet. Take last night for an example. I played an hour last night and maybe 40 minutes before work this morning, ...and moved up from level 282 to 287. Sp the game gave me a few clearly marked challenges to do, I did them, and finished a quest for the MIDA. That kept me entertained. Just my opinion here ....the game does a MUCH better job this time of balancing out the progression path from level 0 to level 20/305 iun terms of making 'what to do' a bit easier. For example, Public events have big indicators with timers on them. You ALWAYS know when to do it. You also don't have to follow just 'one' way, you can get there a whole bunch of different ways. And it seems like regardless of which, if you just keep following the big blazing 'MILESTONE' marker, it keeps giving you stuff to move you along. And between Crucible, public events, Strikes, Lost Sectors, Patrols, etc...there are like ten to twelve different things to keep doing. And even if some of them might get repetitious, like the Public events...well 1), they are fast (under 5 min) and 2), they don't get boring because as you get stronger, it gets more fun beating down the enemies that gave you problems earlier. If PvP is your thing, you won't like Destiny. I think the PvP isn't that good. If you like PvP, but also like just shooting crap while exploring, getting loot, leveling up like some old school D&D, then Destiny is good old fashioned mindless fun. The only '*' I would add to the above is that to someone who has never played Destiny before, it might be a bit tricky to navigate at first, trying to understand all the different rule sets. Engrams, infusions, mods, different characters doing different things, etc..The game does do a decent job of shoving you along where you need to go (even highlighting in the tower who you need to talk to), but ...I could see where it might be difficult. I didn't even touch upon the Raid stuff. IMHO Destiny is two games. The above game I described...and then IF you get high enough and ALSO have friends to do the Raid. The Raid is where the game shines. The game is decent enough without raiding, but will probably get boring without some ultimate goal. If you can add the Raid activities as part of the game, then it's a goodgreat game. Some of my greatest gaming moments are with the Raids. Right up there with the best of the CoD moments. I can't think of any other games that can even come close to those two, and I'm thinking back to hundreds of other video games. One other warning...if your friend gets into it, it can be a HUGE time suck. Consume hours by the days. Be careful. |
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Post by markopolo on Sept 27, 2017 10:36:27 GMT -5
What time suck?
The time suck was the grind... there is no grind, and if there is, it CERTAINLY does not compare to D1.
There is only 1 things that you "have to do" in D2: finish the campaign.
No using an item to level its perks. No mat grind. No resource hoarding. No multiple currencies. No exotic shards. No rep/faction grinding. No need to run the raid to be max power. No friends needed to run strikes with. No friends needed to run nightfalls with. No need to run the raid to get raid items. No need to run Trials to get Trials items.
Nothing.
Literally Bungie took D1, looked at what took time, and hacked it out of the game, and made D2.
This is why reddit is full of bored people who are complaining. They have nothing to do, because for so long, they were so used to doing so much. Now.... yea.
Why are faction wars so darn popular? Because it's an artificial grind. People on reddit are so f$$king starved for the grind, that they gave them something to do. But as in true fashion, you can still get all the good stuff for nothing (just like I got my raid and trials gear for nothing) but it costs more (glimmer and infuelsion)
D2 is not a time suck. At least certainly in comparison to D1.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 27, 2017 11:38:44 GMT -5
Let's not pollute the thread with cheerleading Marko.  I said IF you get into the game (please read that five more times)...the game can devour a lot of one's time. It can. It does. That doesn't have to be a negative (especially if you like gaming, which everyone here does), but it can chew up gobs of one's time. That could be said for any game, but this one more than others. the people on Reddit who are complaining, most of them probably are already at five to six plus days of playtime on this game after four weeks. |
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Post by markopolo on Sept 27, 2017 11:47:43 GMT -5
So far, Destiny 2 has not take up nearly the amount of time I thought it would of mine.
Without insults or labels (that might be hard for you but try): Beyond the normal scope of the game, defend your position with evidence that Destiny 2 "can be a HUGE time suck". Which specific activities and tasks necessitate the "chew(ing) up gobs of one's time" as you put it?
Because I don't see it.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 27, 2017 12:03:06 GMT -5
So far, Destiny 2 has not take up nearly the amount of time I thought it would of mine. Without insults or labels (that might be hard for you but try): Beyond the normal scope of the game, defend your position with evidence that Destiny 2 "can be a HUGE time suck". Which specific activities and tasks necessitate the "chew(ing) up gobs of one's time" as you put it? Because I don't see it. Evidence? This isn't a court room. I'm also just kind of joking with you with the pic. Sometimes you are a bit to defensive of this game with coming to its rescue. People are allowed to find faults with certain aspects of it. They are allowed an opinion. Like this one. The game can take up lots of one's time IF one really gets into it. That's reality. As I said, it's also not even a bad thing if you are enjoying yourself. I think this game fixed many of it's prior issues. And yes, you don't necessarily have to do anything more than the campaign, but if that's all you do, you are missing quite a bit. |
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Post by markopolo on Sept 27, 2017 12:16:29 GMT -5
well played sir.
well played
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 27, 2017 12:23:33 GMT -5
well played sir. well played I'm not ripping into the game by saying 'time suck'. View it as a compliment. Take Monday night as an example. I started playing at 9pm. The other XB1 guys hit me up around 10:30 or so. At 11 we started raiding. Boom. Next thing I know it's 4:15am and I had to get up in 2.5 hours lol. Where did the seven hours just go lol?  ? Seriously, the four some hours of raiding, I didn't even know what time it was nor never once even looked at the clock. Just having fun, bs'ing, raiding and shooting crap. The game sucked up ALL my time that night lol. |
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Post by malgato on Sept 27, 2017 13:14:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it is absolutely true that the game CAN be a big time suck. The wonderful improvement for D2 is that it doesn't NEED to be a big time suck. So far I have elected to make it a big time suck because for the last month I have had an unusual amount of free time available. But the beauty is that this is purely by choice - as both Marko and Stone have pointed out - D2 has removed the huge time grind to advance. This is a great change, but it also leaves people who have invested a lot of time already with fewer tangible targets. I think it is great that you don't need to grind for the perfect weapon roll or experience to unlock gear, etc. But it also has removed those targets for people who have achieved most of the "standard" leveling/advancement goals. The Faction Wars are a nice addition because some people actually enjoy to grind for some tangential super-achiever target.
TL;DR - you guys are both right.
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Post by qupie on Sept 28, 2017 4:52:45 GMT -5
Maybe you should have slowed down, instead of racing to get three characters to level 305, so you can ...what?  |
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 28, 2017 7:42:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it is absolutely true that the game CAN be a big time suck. The wonderful improvement for D2 is that it doesn't NEED to be a big time suck. So far I have elected to make it a big time suck because for the last month I have had an unusual amount of free time available. But the beauty is that this is purely by choice - as both Marko and Stone have pointed out - D2 has removed the huge time grind to advance. This is a great change, but it also leaves people who have invested a lot of time already with fewer tangible targets. I think it is great that you don't need to grind for the perfect weapon roll or experience to unlock gear, etc. But it also has removed those targets for people who have achieved most of the "standard" leveling/advancement goals. The Faction Wars are a nice addition because some people actually enjoy to grind for some tangential super-achiever target. TL;DR - you guys are both right. What are the faction wars? |
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Post by markopolo on Sept 28, 2017 9:17:51 GMT -5
Look in the WRT, I reposted an excelent reddit article about everything
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Post by GodMars on Sept 28, 2017 9:51:02 GMT -5
I log in every day for one reason: grinding out engrams hoping to get the (PS4 only) Terra Concord set gauntlets. I've gotten countless multiples of everything else, but not those stupid gloves. If I were to get those I'd likely only log in a couple of times a week.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 28, 2017 10:11:54 GMT -5
Look in the WRT, I reposted an excelent reddit article about everything Which one, there are like seven threads with WRT |
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Post by markopolo on Sept 28, 2017 10:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by TheHawkNY on Sept 28, 2017 11:03:34 GMT -5
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Post by markopolo on Sept 28, 2017 11:09:34 GMT -5
Because Kentucky Bourbon takes time to mellow, mature, and blossom in it's casks. Otherwise, it's swill |
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Post by bradman on Sept 28, 2017 11:10:42 GMT -5
Two tours in Nam will do that to you.
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Post by GodMars on Sept 28, 2017 13:51:06 GMT -5
After weeks of waiting for the Terra Concord gauntlets to drop, Rahool finally blessed me with his favor. I told him he was my bro, bro.
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Post by TheHawkNY on Sept 28, 2017 14:32:05 GMT -5
After weeks of waiting for the Terra Concord gauntlets to drop, Rahool finally blessed me with his favor. I told him he was my bro, bro. Mazel Tov! |
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 29, 2017 8:47:57 GMT -5
Here's a question I have, that's been bugging me.
How does the engram drop work? In terms of the power level.
This past Monday (after the reset), I was around level 284/285, something like that. Since Monday, after some raiding, some clan stuff, some lucky breaks, my power level has gone up to 292. So far, so good. But I noticed a day or two ago, that all the engrams I turn in seem for the most part, to be dropping exactly at 285.
I thought I read somewhere that the engram drop rate is tied to what your armor average is less mods? I think right two of my equipment pieces do not have mods. The chest and boots. I cant' find mods for them. My helmet is modded to 289 (284+5), and my gloves are an exotic at 301.
So does this reset for a new drop rate Monday night? If my above average (however it is calculated) is at say 290...will the new drop rate on engrams be at 290? Then I mod them up to 295?
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Post by qupie on Sept 29, 2017 8:53:35 GMT -5
I honestly think nobody knows. I am not even convinced the "basic power level aka modless power level" is a thing. It might just be power level minus ~5. There is some sort of random stuff in there.
Honestly I haven't cared enough to try and figure it out anyways. Every now and then you will get a slight power boost from normal legendaries, but that only happens when one of your armor pieces is severely under leveled. And that will probably only happen as a result of transferring weapons from a higher alt. In general, I think the reason the weapons drop close to you light, is so you can try and use them in the wild, without the need to infuse them. If you really like them, you can infuse them.
Also, do you have a lot of glimmer? Buy random rare mods from the gunsmith, if you get 3 of the same you can trade them for legendary +5 mods.
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 29, 2017 9:15:31 GMT -5
I honestly think nobody knows. I am not even convinced the "basic power level aka modless power level" is a thing. It might just be power level minus ~5. There is some sort of random stuff in there. Honestly I haven't cared enough to try and figure it out anyways. Every now and then you will get a slight power boost from normal legendaries, but that only happens when one of your armor pieces is severely under leveled. And that will probably only happen as a result of transferring weapons from a higher alt. In general, I think the reason the weapons drop close to you light, is so you can try and use them in the wild, without the need to infuse them. If you really like them, you can infuse them. Also, do you have a lot of glimmer? Buy random rare mods from the gunsmith, if you get 3 of the same you can trade them for legendary +5 mods. I bought like twenty random mods, but they didn't give me a single boot or chest piece. I had forgotten about trading in three of the same for one legendary. Not sure how to do it, but will have to look into that. So I can trade them in for a specific legendary mod? Like a +5 boot mod? |
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Post by qupie on Sept 29, 2017 9:29:13 GMT -5
Only if you have 3 of the same legendary ones. If you have 3 blue void mods, you will get one legendary void mod. You can trade them at gunsmith (bottom of the screen)
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Post by iw5000 on Sept 29, 2017 9:35:12 GMT -5
Only if you have 3 of the same legendary ones. If you have 3 blue void mods, you will get one legendary void mod. You can trade them at gunsmith (bottom of the screen) So I can buy three helmet legendary mods...get all three, trade them in for a +5 boot mod? |
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Post by thebb22 on Sept 29, 2017 10:45:00 GMT -5
No. You can trade in three identical blue mods...say an Arc Paragon Mod for your chest piece...for one legendary Arc Paragon Mod for a chest piece. There's no way to specifically buy or trade in for a certain mod for a certain piece of armor.
Trading in three chest mods will never give you a boot mod. Trading in three Void Damage Mods will never give you a Kinetic Munitions Loader or anything like that.
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Post by qupie on Sept 29, 2017 11:30:22 GMT -5
Only if you have 3 of the same legendary ones. If you have 3 blue void mods, you will get one legendary void mod. You can trade them at gunsmith (bottom of the screen) So I can buy three helmet legendary mods...get all three, trade them in for a +5 boot mod? Ahum that was an unfortunate typo  I meant, only if you have 3 or the same blue mods, you can "buy" (actually more of a trade) those three blue mods for one purple (legendary +5) mod. You can never buy legendary mods to begin with. You can get them from random rewards but they are really rare. Just buy blue ones with some excess glimmer. |
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Post by GodMars on Sept 29, 2017 19:26:14 GMT -5
After weeks of waiting for the Terra Concord gauntlets to drop, Rahool finally blessed me with his favor. I told him he was my bro, bro. Mazel Tov! That mother fucking Rahool, he gave me another pair. After all of these weeks that sonofabitch just starts giving them out like candy. |
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Post by qupie on Oct 1, 2017 8:48:02 GMT -5
Lol I was still wanting to have the mini chain gun exotic kinetic thing. Got one yesterday, and two more in like an hour after |
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Post by markopolo on Oct 2, 2017 9:16:15 GMT -5
Lol I was still wanting to have the mini chain gun exotic kinetic thing. Got one yesterday, and two more in like an hour after I got one too... then put it into my uriel's gift to make it 299 |
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Post by GodMars on Oct 2, 2017 9:37:44 GMT -5
Lol I was still wanting to have the mini chain gun exotic kinetic thing. Got one yesterday, and two more in like an hour after I got one too... then put it into my uriel's gift to make it 299 So, can we discuss the fact that, outside of the raid, power level means pretty much nothing to your average player? Depending on what I equip I’m right on the edge of 300, and I’m not any better off than I was at 265. |
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? Seriously, the four some hours of raiding, I didn't even know what time it was nor never once even looked at the clock. Just having fun, bs'ing, raiding and shooting crap. The game sucked up ALL my time that night lol.
