Usagi
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Post by Usagi on Sept 10, 2013 17:44:52 GMT -5
^ Pretty much. Sniping in black ops was so rewarding and actually worth it. You don't have to buff sniper rifles to make them good. Just make every other gun slightly worse with recoil. Sniper rifles are a long range weapon, so stop all assault rifles from doing what sniper rifles should do best. MW3 post-patch FAD? any-range 4 shot kill at 1200RPM? What the Foxtrot guys. It was 1000 RPM not 1200.
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wwaa
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Post by wwaa on Sept 15, 2013 13:45:12 GMT -5
BO2 sniping is difficult because the distances are so short that without var zoom you get massive tunnel vision. MW3 snipers sucked because every sight line had clutter or was extremely isolated. IMO: BO2 sniping would be ok on most maps having 0.25 sec ADS and higher ROF (bolts 70rpm, semis 700rpm) Just have a look: MSR: 65 rpm, Ballista: 47 rpm. This IS a huge difference, 27% drop in BO2, completely stupid nerf. If somone is not sure nerf from 65 to 47 really matters imagine SMG with ROF 650 rpm, nerfed to 470 rpm. In BO2 sniper rifles should be in secondaries slot.. and shotguns too, or removed completely as they only distract players form playing the OBJ. ... MW3 snipers sucked because Quickdraw was needed and snipers died A LOT not having Assassin PRO.
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Post by mw2baller on Sept 15, 2013 15:43:51 GMT -5
ADS and ROF don't mean shit for snipers. They are one-shot-one-kill weapons that you zoom in with before you spot enemies. Like shotguns, they are map dependent.
It doesn't matter if your shotgun is an MW2 AA12 that fires KSG slugs as pellets. If the map is like wasteland the gun will suck. Likewise, it doesn't matter if you have a 0.1 second ADS 100rpm 1hk sniper, if the map is simply a maze of interconnected rooms, the sniper will suck.
The sniper-smg analogy is terrible. It could be a musket for all I care. If you land the first shot, you get a kill. An smg that fires slower will kill slower.
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Post by -3055- on Sept 16, 2013 7:09:43 GMT -5
Maps R important. Also, they should make sniper rifle suppressors reduce the range of being able to see the red dot on the minimap not take it out completely. Then also don't take out ridiculous chunks of damage from it. Same with any other gun that has a 1HK potential. No range/damage reduction and just a minimap range decrease.
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markopolo
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Post by markopolo on Sept 16, 2013 9:57:12 GMT -5
I dunno.... whenever I pick up a sniper rifle, it's not that bad. Maybe because I'm so used to killing long distance as it is with a silenced, target finding, LMG..... that I know the long distances spots?
Agreed, it's not like it was in other games, but that doesn't mean it's so terrible
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wwaa
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Post by wwaa on Sept 16, 2013 12:35:56 GMT -5
ADS and ROF don't mean shit for snipers. They are one-shot-one-kill weapons that you zoom in with before you spot enemies. Like shotguns, they are map dependent. you are joking, right? ok. in MW2 "Barrett + fast ads" IS NOT MAP DEPENDENT. you can use it any map, any game mode, any distance, running or tactical loitering - what counts is ACCURACY, aka luck or skill, as developers allowed you to fast ads and kill if you can aim. "zoom in with before you spot enemies" ? sniper moves around or camps - AFTER spotting an opponent with NAKED EYE he zooms in and kills. AFTER. ads time is crucial. ---- do not provoke me pls, I am very busy / tired last days.
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adw1983
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Post by adw1983 on Sept 24, 2014 18:49:30 GMT -5
Ideal table: FAL - 45-29 damage / 650 RPM / 0.25 ADS / Low recoil SMR - 55-40 damage / 550 RPM / 0.28 ADS / Med recoil SVU - 75/65 damage / 500 RPM / 0.33 ADS / Med recoil / 1.7 - 1.5 - 1.0 - 1.0 - 1.0 XPR - 95/75 damage / 450 RPM / 0.37 ADS / High recoil / 1.7 - 1.5 - 1.5 - 1.1 - 1.0 FAL - > Awful SMR -> Very bad SVU -> Fair XPR -> WTFBBQOP Remember G3 from CoD4? I used it. A freaking lot. And I'd still use it, even if it had 45-28 damage after stopping power: Medium/low recoil means you can spam down targets on any range with your laser accuracy -- just like the MW2 ACR and CoD4 M4. FAL would be perfectly fine. I'd actually use it if it was worse. Now, I don't use it -- because it's so good that it makes me feel so dirty that my wife feels cheated. ... ... Okay. Outlook.com made me necro. Weird.
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Usagi
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Post by Usagi on Sept 25, 2014 2:01:07 GMT -5
3 to 4HK + 444RPM = bad
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Sept 25, 2014 18:53:25 GMT -5
If you can't hit SMR trigger cap it means you don't have a hand. forever handless paws4life
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probaddie
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Post by probaddie on Sept 27, 2014 8:08:12 GMT -5
forever handless paws4life Indeed. It's good to know you and your hooves have come to recognize the (pawed) master race.
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Post by kylet357 on Sept 27, 2014 8:37:22 GMT -5
Indeed. It's good to know you and your hooves have come to recognize the (pawed) master race. u both still can't master bait
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probaddie
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Post by probaddie on Sept 27, 2014 8:40:57 GMT -5
Indeed. It's good to know you and your hooves have come to recognize the (pawed) master race. u both still can't master bait Are you sure enough of that to let me lick your face?
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Sept 27, 2014 9:14:25 GMT -5
Rumor has that Probuddy will lick peanut butter off you anywhere.
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probaddie
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Post by probaddie on Sept 27, 2014 9:36:20 GMT -5
Rumor has that Probuddy will lick peanut butter off you anywhere. Really poor word choice again, LB: "rumor" implies that that could somehow be wrong .
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42
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Post by 42 on Sept 27, 2014 10:03:10 GMT -5
I think you've had enough to drink, probuddy
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pachiderm
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Post by pachiderm on Sept 27, 2014 15:03:28 GMT -5
I think you've had enough to drink, probuddy I think you haven't had enough, Neg
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Post by kylet357 on Sept 27, 2014 19:13:36 GMT -5
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