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Post by mannon on Nov 20, 2014 11:46:07 GMT -5
Too much competition for my gaming time this time around. When MW2 came out it was the only thing I was really playing.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 20, 2014 11:46:58 GMT -5
Can we say for certain AW's sales are worse than Ghosts? vgchartz numbers are solid enough: 7.4 million copies sold on consoles for week 1. Regarding play hours, it probably has more to do with the rich offerings of this holiday season. Destiny in particular, is a magnet of playing times despite its glaring weaknesses. This week the competition for playing time intensifies: 1) GTA 5 and Far Cry 4 launched this week; 2) With the mother of all patches coming out today, Halo MCC hopefully will end its "beta" period and launch officially; 3) In addition to its usual grind of weekly/Nightfall/Raid, Destiny is having the Iron Banner event this week; 4) Not to be left out, AW will have Clan War placement event this weekend;
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 20, 2014 13:27:24 GMT -5
When comparing to past games, Activision always released a hard number. They didn't do that last year. And they didn't do it again this year.
VGChartz, they have to be estimating.
I'm just going by the official news so far, what was posted on page 16 of this thread. We know it's weekly numbers beat the combo of Destiny and Wolfenstein. That's all. But unless I am missing something, nothing official about whether it knocked off Ghosts. I suppose everyone is guessing that it is close to CoD Ghosts. 7.5 to 8.5 million.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 20, 2014 13:30:23 GMT -5
A few weeks ago, I was guessing this... "TF was only released on one console, the XB1. It's first week numbers were well under 500k. And supposedly, TF beat Castle Wolfenstein. The two of them combined were under a million. Destiny? We don't know the real first week numbers, (as they kept them hidden), but we can ballpark them (due to receipts) to be around 5 million or so. So what did CoDAW really do? It beat 6 million games sold. That's not saying much considering the games ahead of it were much higher. BO2 at 13.3 million. MW3 at 12.9 million. BO1 at 10.8 million. And MW2 at 9.1 million. Actvision never would give the numbers for Ghost. It was speculated that Ghost's numbers were around or between 7.5 to 8.5 million"I also think Destiny did higher than what was written. Didn't Activision release a receipts number? Something around $350 million in the first week?
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Post by TheHawkNY on Nov 20, 2014 13:31:25 GMT -5
Again, the rule of thumb. "If they had met or matched past game's sales, they would have told us" Two conclusions. This game is not selling as well as Ghosts. I think we are on very firm ground in reaching that conclusion. Two. People who did buy it, aren't playing it as much as prior games. While I don't have that much evidence to support the latter conclusion, I do feel my anecdotal evidence is strong. I'm looking at our clan. I'm looking at the playing hours/time of around 120 people this year, compared to last year. There is a HUGE drop off this year. HUGE. "Sales and engagement are up through the first week compared to last year. Season Pass sales are up, as well." Seems like they did tell us.
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 20, 2014 13:58:23 GMT -5
Oh ok. I missed that. ty Here's what I found googling about Destiny. Sep 17, 2014 · "Activision revealed today that Destiny sold-through more than $325 million worldwide in its first five days on sale. The phrase “sold-through” denotes" popwatch.ew.com/2014/09/17/destiny-first-week-sales/"Destiny had the biggest launch in 2014 selling more than 4.5 million units worldwide and more than 2.4 million units in the US in its first week. Second week sales are in and it sold another 891,651 units across all platforms. That brings the total sales over two week to 5.44 million units. n4g.com/news/1597603/destiny-sales-top-5-4-million-units-in-2-weeksVGChartz shows them at 7.44 to 7.70 million units sold to date www.vgchartz.com/game/71525/destiny/So Destiny did 4.5 million units in the first week (Sep 9th to Sep 16th). So far, after two months & two weeks, they are at 7.40 to 7.70 units sold.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 20, 2014 14:14:23 GMT -5
Here is what I think ActiVision is doing:
Before Ghosts, the franchise was breaking records year after year. Marketing wise it totally makes sense to brag about it, so they did;
Inevitably, the franchise can no longer do that at some point, and Ghosts is the start of it. As a result, they start intentionally fading out on the practice of giving detailed numbers for each specific game, and start using "warm" and "fuzzy" phrases to describe games' success. They probably will also stop comparing the current game with the previous games, unless it sets a new record.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 12:09:43 GMT -5
Can we say for certain AW's sales are worse than Ghosts? vgchartz numbers are solid enough: 7.4 million copies sold on consoles for week 1. Regarding play hours, it probably has more to do with the rich offerings of this holiday season. Destiny in particular, is a magnet of playing times despite its glaring weaknesses. This week the competition for playing time intensifies: 1) GTA 5 and Far Cry 4 launched this week; 2) With the mother of all patches coming out today, Halo MCC hopefully will end its "beta" period and launch officially; 3) In addition to its usual grind of weekly/Nightfall/Raid, Destiny is having the Iron Banner event this week; 4) Not to be left out, AW will have Clan War placement event this weekend; Another offering just joined the busy weekend: Sunset Overdrive is free to play on XONE this Saturday for 24 hours: majornelson.com/2014/11/21/sunset-overdrive-free-xbox-live-gold-members-saturday/?linkId=10668847
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 21, 2014 14:30:14 GMT -5
If Destiny wasn't such a full time video game playing job, I would maybe have time to try that.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 14:47:06 GMT -5
If Destiny wasn't such a full time video game playing job, I would maybe have time to try that. That's what I mean by "playing time magnet" . You have 2 choices when it comes to Destiny: either you stop playing it completely, or spend 10+ hours per week on it... I plan to squeeze out a couple of hours on Saturday to give Sunset Overdrive a shot. Nothing beats free...
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 21, 2014 15:31:52 GMT -5
I think you should emphasize that "+" a bit more. Well, a lot more.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 15:45:58 GMT -5
Let's see what's happening this week:
1) Monday: 6pm - 11pm for first time VoG hard completion, 5 hours;
2) Tuesday: 3 hours on Iron Banner;
3) Wednesday: 3 hours on Nightfall;
4) Thursday: 6 hours on Raids and weekly (got kicked out right before completing it, thanks a lot Bungie);
Sunday: plan to play 12 hours of Iron Banner. Then 3 weekly, then at least 2 hours for planet material farming;
Total: 30+ hours. This is a full time job
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Post by iw5000 on Nov 21, 2014 16:09:09 GMT -5
Please delete that post. I don't need any reminders. I'm already suffering from CoD PSTD after last years grind.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 16:12:46 GMT -5
Please delete that post. I don't need any reminders. I'm already suffering from CoD PSTD after last years grind. Done
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 17:03:37 GMT -5
Last week's vgchartz number for US and UK came out: www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41959/USA/www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41959/UK/Halo MCC took the #1 spot, too bad the game has a broken launch. AC Unity 2nd place, then AW 3rd. US + UK combined: AW has another 1 million copies sold on consoles. Once the global number is out, I expect total sales for the first 2 weeks to be 9+ million copies (first week global: 7.4 million).
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Post by mannon on Nov 21, 2014 17:05:08 GMT -5
Yeah I can't do that. I play about 3 hours of Destiny a couple days a week and that's about all I can manage for some reason even though I live within 5 miles of work, have no kids, and don't go to school. You'd think I would have tons of free time.
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Post by wittyscorpion on Nov 21, 2014 19:51:10 GMT -5
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