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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 23:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 3, 2015 23:09:46 GMT -5
Myself and others would like to know where exactly you got 773 RPM for the Judge Dredge. Also, you've probably noticed that Drift0r's and BM's values for some ranges are slightly different. Most noticeably the 1st or 2nd ranges of the ARs (38m/42m). So, we can assume that either Drift0r or BM made a conversion error. Since I'm fairly certain that the majority of bros would consider Drift0r less likely to make this mistake (although recent events have definitely eroded my confidence in him), I propose we use his figures instead of BM's (38m instead of 42m). Let me know how you all feel on the subject.
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Post by dunsparceflinch on Dec 3, 2015 23:19:58 GMT -5
Where did you get the numbers for the damage on shotguns? I assume that those numbers are bonus damage per pellet hit right? If so, what are the base damages?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 3, 2015 23:22:58 GMT -5
Where did you get the numbers for the damage on shotguns? I assume that those numbers are bonus damage per pellet hit right? If so, what are the base damages? The Damage per pellet was taken from BM's app. Unfortunately but unsurprisingly he has not yet posted the Base Damage for the Shotguns so, we don't know them yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 23:46:08 GMT -5
Myself and others would like to know where exactly you got 773 RPM for the Judge Dredge. Also, you've probably noticed that Drift0r's and BM's values for some ranges are slightly different. Most noticeably the 1st or 2nd ranges of the ARs (38m/42m). So, we can assume that either Drift0r or BM made a conversion error. Since I'm fairly certain that the majority of bros would consider Drift0r less likely to make this mistake (although recent events have definitely eroded my confidence in him), I propose we use his figures instead of BM's (38m instead of 42m). Let me know how you all feel on the subject. 48 Dredge RPM is from BM's App. Yes, Drift0r is converting them correctly so I'm going to update the values for range soon enough.
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Post by fhelps on Dec 4, 2015 0:51:48 GMT -5
I would like to know more about the Rapid Fire attachment. If i get it right, Driftor's video about Rapid Fire has some different numbers from the ones on the spreadsheet. (I haven't checked BM's app, but I assume it has the same numbers from Driftor's videos)
The spreadsheet says that M8A7 has 15% less burst delay with rapid fire, while Driftor's video says that it has 19% less burst delay. The SVG-100 and Locus has also some differences. The spreadsheet says that SVG-100 gets 24% of improvement in rate of fire, while the video says that it's 31,5%. On the Locus the spreadsheet says 32% and the video 47%. Drakon is not in the spreadsheet, but the video says 43%. Also KRM, Argus and 48-Dredge seems to be different, as by what the video pointed out the increase would be only of the general 6.3% for these weapons.
Could someone explain that better?
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Post by qupie on Dec 4, 2015 7:12:25 GMT -5
I would love to know accurate pistol rate of fire.
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Post by LeGitBeeSting on Dec 4, 2015 8:35:14 GMT -5
I would like to know more about the Rapid Fire attachment. If i get it right, Driftor's video about Rapid Fire has some different numbers from the ones on the spreadsheet. (I haven't checked BM's app, but I assume it has the same numbers from Driftor's videos) The spreadsheet says that M8A7 has 15% less burst delay with rapid fire, while Driftor's video says that it has 19% less burst delay. The SVG-100 and Locus has also some differences. The spreadsheet says that SVG-100 gets 24% of improvement in rate of fire, while the video says that it's 31,5%. On the Locus the spreadsheet says 32% and the video 47%. Drakon is not in the spreadsheet, but the video says 43%. Also KRM, Argus and 48-Dredge seems to be different, as by what the video pointed out the increase would be only of the general 6.3% for these weapons. Could someone explain that better? Thanks! Drifty purposely distributes false info so it's easier for Denbros to pub stomp. Remember according to Drifty the Man O War has a 20 round mag.
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Post by pharq on Dec 4, 2015 11:21:37 GMT -5
Am i correct in reading that SMGs with quickdraw ADS 65% faster?
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Post by noyoucannot on Dec 4, 2015 11:43:15 GMT -5
Any chance you can add perk stats? Such as for Fast Hands.
Getting lots of conflicting info regarding it and would be cool to see what the code says it does to know for sure.
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 13:00:29 GMT -5
I would like to know more about the Rapid Fire attachment. If i get it right, Driftor's video about Rapid Fire has some different numbers from the ones on the spreadsheet. (I haven't checked BM's app, but I assume it has the same numbers from Driftor's videos) The spreadsheet says that M8A7 has 15% less burst delay with rapid fire, while Driftor's video says that it has 19% less burst delay. The SVG-100 and Locus has also some differences. The spreadsheet says that SVG-100 gets 24% of improvement in rate of fire, while the video says that it's 31,5%. On the Locus the spreadsheet says 32% and the video 47%. Drakon is not in the spreadsheet, but the video says 43%. Also KRM, Argus and 48-Dredge seems to be different, as by what the video pointed out the increase would be only of the general 6.3% for these weapons. Could someone explain that better? Thanks! Drifty purposely distributes false info so it's easier for Denbros to pub stomp. Remember according to Drifty the Man O War has a 20 round mag. And headshots matter when you're doing 22 Damage. He's trying to get people to aim for the head for no reason so we can flinch/aimpunch them into oblivion.
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 13:02:01 GMT -5
I'd also like to know where you got the burst RPM for the M8A1, the exact ranges for the LMGs, and stats for every attachment that Drift0r hasn't covered yet (besides everything that is obvious from in-game testing). Tips from Marvel?
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 13:02:52 GMT -5
so how much of this is just copying bms app into a spreadsheet anyway A lot.
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 13:23:28 GMT -5
Myself and others would like to know where exactly you got 773 RPM for the Judge Dredge. Also, you've probably noticed that Drift0r's and BM's values for some ranges are slightly different. Most noticeably the 1st or 2nd ranges of the ARs (38m/42m). So, we can assume that either Drift0r or BM made a conversion error. Since I'm fairly certain that the majority of bros would consider Drift0r less likely to make this mistake (although recent events have definitely eroded my confidence in him), I propose we use his figures instead of BM's (38m instead of 42m). Let me know how you all feel on the subject. 48 Dredge RPM is from BM's App. Yes, Drift0r is converting them correctly so I'm going to update the values for range soon enough. So you used a value for the Dredge that we know is incorrect?
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Post by woodrow on Dec 4, 2015 15:22:40 GMT -5
Very interesting... I could have sworn guns felt more accurate with different sights but I wasn't sure if it was because of the differing FOVs or what. I'm thinking that Grip + Recon could definitely have potential on certain guns.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:43:47 GMT -5
48 Dredge RPM is from BM's App. Yes, Drift0r is converting them correctly so I'm going to update the values for range soon enough. So you used a value for the Dredge that we know is incorrect? Didn't know it was incorrect until I was informed of the correct formula. Just need to change BrassMonkeigh's range numbers when I get home and we are golden.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:52:21 GMT -5
so how much of this is just copying bms app into a spreadsheet anyway A lot. Home - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Primaries - 55% Original Data, 45% Brass Monkeigh Secondaries - 65% Original Data, 35% Brass Monkeigh Attachments - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Experience Chart - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Patch Notes - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:59:22 GMT -5
Am i correct in reading that SMGs with quickdraw ADS 65% faster? ADS Transition In Time * 0.35 ADS Transition Out Time * 0.7 SMGs w/ Quickdraw = 65% Faster ADS Time SMGs w/ Quickdraw = 30% Faster ADS Out Time
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:59:48 GMT -5
so how much of this is just copying bms app into a spreadsheet anyway Noob.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 16:02:18 GMT -5
I would like to know more about the Rapid Fire attachment. If i get it right, Driftor's video about Rapid Fire has some different numbers from the ones on the spreadsheet. (I haven't checked BM's app, but I assume it has the same numbers from Driftor's videos) The spreadsheet says that M8A7 has 15% less burst delay with rapid fire, while Driftor's video says that it has 19% less burst delay. The SVG-100 and Locus has also some differences. The spreadsheet says that SVG-100 gets 24% of improvement in rate of fire, while the video says that it's 31,5%. On the Locus the spreadsheet says 32% and the video 47%. Drakon is not in the spreadsheet, but the video says 43%. Also KRM, Argus and 48-Dredge seems to be different, as by what the video pointed out the increase would be only of the general 6.3% for these weapons. Could someone explain that better? Thanks! Explanation: Drift0r is incorrect. I'm not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 16:05:27 GMT -5
Myself and others would like to know where exactly you got 773 RPM for the Judge Dredge. Also, you've probably noticed that Drift0r's and BM's values for some ranges are slightly different. Most noticeably the 1st or 2nd ranges of the ARs (38m/42m). So, we can assume that either Drift0r or BM made a conversion error. Since I'm fairly certain that the majority of bros would consider Drift0r less likely to make this mistake (although recent events have definitely eroded my confidence in him), I propose we use his figures instead of BM's (38m instead of 42m). Let me know how you all feel on the subject. Also, don't know if the new "Judge" Dredge DBS + RPM values are correct. Check them out.
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Post by moon on Dec 4, 2015 16:10:42 GMT -5
Would definitely love to know the TTK for the Dredge. Whether loud or unsilenced, I feel like I melt people super quickly with it.
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 16:56:14 GMT -5
Myself and others would like to know where exactly you got 773 RPM for the Judge Dredge. Also, you've probably noticed that Drift0r's and BM's values for some ranges are slightly different. Most noticeably the 1st or 2nd ranges of the ARs (38m/42m). So, we can assume that either Drift0r or BM made a conversion error. Since I'm fairly certain that the majority of bros would consider Drift0r less likely to make this mistake (although recent events have definitely eroded my confidence in him), I propose we use his figures instead of BM's (38m instead of 42m). Let me know how you all feel on the subject. Also, don't know if the new "Judge" Dredge DBS + RPM values are correct. Check them out. No, definitely not. RPM was close to 1200 when I tested it. It hasn't been updated since to my knowledge. I have no idea where you got that value from.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 17:01:02 GMT -5
Also, don't know if the new "Judge" Dredge DBS + RPM values are correct. Check them out. No, definitely not. RPM was close to 1200 when I tested it. It hasn't been updated since to my knowledge. I have no idea where you got that value from. I'll have banana calculate it. He didn't have a chance to calculate the other burst weapons yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 17:01:34 GMT -5
Home - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Primaries - 55% Original Data, 45% Brass Monkeigh Secondaries - 65% Original Data, 35% Brass Monkeigh Attachments - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Experience Chart - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh Patch Notes - 100% Original Data, 0% Brass Monkeigh did you seriously list the table of contents Ye. Have you take care of the Mouse, you know?
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Post by DroneASR on Dec 4, 2015 17:07:29 GMT -5
Where did you get the numbers for the damage on shotguns? I assume that those numbers are bonus damage per pellet hit right? If so, what are the base damages? The Damage per pellet was taken from BM's app. Unfortunately but unsurprisingly he has not yet posted the Base Damage for the Shotguns so, we don't know them yet. all shot guns deal base 50 regardless of how many pellets make contact so 50 + (DMG * Pellets hit)
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Post by JustABitAgroed on Dec 4, 2015 17:10:17 GMT -5
The Damage per pellet was taken from BM's app. Unfortunately but unsurprisingly he has not yet posted the Base Damage for the Shotguns so, we don't know them yet. all shot guns deal base 50 regardless of how many pellets make contact so 50 + (DMG * Pellets hit) Source? BM stated the base damage could be anywhere from 50-80 which is at the most only somewhat correct because if the base damage was 50 at every range then shotguns would be incapable of 3 shot kills, which they of course are not.
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Post by fhelps on Dec 4, 2015 17:23:19 GMT -5
I would like to know more about the Rapid Fire attachment. If i get it right, Driftor's video about Rapid Fire has some different numbers from the ones on the spreadsheet. (I haven't checked BM's app, but I assume it has the same numbers from Driftor's videos) The spreadsheet says that M8A7 has 15% less burst delay with rapid fire, while Driftor's video says that it has 19% less burst delay. The SVG-100 and Locus has also some differences. The spreadsheet says that SVG-100 gets 24% of improvement in rate of fire, while the video says that it's 31,5%. On the Locus the spreadsheet says 32% and the video 47%. Drakon is not in the spreadsheet, but the video says 43%. Also KRM, Argus and 48-Dredge seems to be different, as by what the video pointed out the increase would be only of the general 6.3% for these weapons. Could someone explain that better? Thanks! Explanation: Drift0r is incorrect. I'm not. So I assume that you claim your stats for Silencer are correct too, right? Because they're also different from what I seem on Driftor's videos. And what exactly are your sources for these attachment stats? Marvel4?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 18:46:05 GMT -5
Ranges are updated.
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Post by Lexapro on Dec 4, 2015 19:13:49 GMT -5
How does firetime and rechamber time effect the overall RoF of the bolt action snipers, Argus and KRM? Are the two times added together? If so, can you separately list the firetime and rechamber time of each weapon? I'd like to know how much rapid-fire actually benefits the RoF of these weapons. For the KRM, rapid fire definitely doesn't feel like a 43% increase in RoF.
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